BC JUVENILE Dirt 1-1/16th Saturday R10

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1 U S Navy Flag (KY) 2/C L1 R L Moore 122 A P O'Brien 8/1
2 Solomini (KY) 2/C L F Prat 122 B Baffert 6/1
3 Firenze Fire (FL) 2/C L I Ortiz, Jr. 122 J Servis 6/1
4 Givemeaminit (LA) 2/C L J Castellano 122 D Stewart 20/1
5 Free Drop Billy (KY) 2/C L R Albarado 122 D L Romans 5/1
6 Good Magic (KY) 2/C L J L Ortiz 122 C C Brown 8/1
7 The Tabulator (KY) 2/C L J Valdivia, Jr. 122 L Rivelli 20/1
8 Bahamian (MD) 2/C L M Gutierrez 122 S Callaghan 30/1
9 Hazit (KY) 2/C L J R Velazquez 122 T A Pletcher 20/1
10 Golden Dragon (KY) 2/C L E A Roman 122 M Yanakov 30/1
11 Bolt d'Oro (KY) 2/C L C S Nakatani 122 M Ruis 9/5
12 Hollywood Star (KY) 2/C L J Rosario 122 D L Romans 15/1
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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1 U S Navy Flag Aidan O'Brien Sports two straight Group 1 victories; dirt is an obvious question, chose this instead of the Juvenile Turf 12-1
2 Solomini Bob Baffert Was beaten a long way by Bolt d'Oro in the FrontRunner, yet still ran creditably while finishing second 10-1
3 Firenze Fire Jason Servis Ran his best race yet to upset the Champagne, but think he beat many distance-challenged opponents 8-1
4 Givemeaminit Dallas Stewart Maiden ran well when close third in Hopeful, but disappointed when stretched out in Breeders' Futurity 15-1
5 Free Drop Billy Dale Romans His Breeders' Futurity score was visually appealing, but in contrast, it was very slow against the clock 6-1
6 Good Magic Chad Brown Champagne runner-up wasn't one of those distance-challenged opponents, looking to post maiden win 8-1
7 The Tabulator Larry Rivelli Bumped his unbeaten streak to three winning the Iroquois, but he was really begging for the wire late 20-1
8 Bahamian Simon Callaghan Thought he might be the Champagne speed, instead he trailed early after a bad start; still overmatched 30-1
9 Hazit Todd Pletcher Empty in Champagne after beating Good Magic in debut thanks to having an easy early lead; I'll pass 20-1
10 Golden Dragon Mikhail Yanakov Has won two straight, but on turf and with slow Beyer Figures; must improve a ton to merely contend 30-1
11 Bolt d'Oro Mick Ruis Figured to really blossom when he stretched out, but his FrontRunner romp was beyond expectations 6-5
12 Hollywood Star Dale Romans Finished second in the slowly run Iroquois in his route debut; needs a big Beyer Figure improvement 20-1
Odds and comments by Mike Watchmaker@DRF
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:06 pm

Melissa Nolan‏ @KeeneGal 8h8 hours ago

Fun fact: 2yo US Navy Flag will make the same # of starts in one season (11) as Arrogate will make in his entire career. That 2yo is hardy
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:26 am

stark wrote:Melissa Nolan‏ @KeeneGal 8h8 hours ago

Fun fact: 2yo US Navy Flag will make the same # of starts in one season (11) as Arrogate will make in his entire career. That 2yo is hardy
Or Arrogate is just coddled #hottake
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Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:51 am

Or C: Both are true. :P ;)
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Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:42 am

stark wrote:Melissa Nolan‏ @KeeneGal 8h8 hours ago

Fun fact: 2yo US Navy Flag will make the same # of starts in one season (11) as Arrogate will make in his entire career. That 2yo is hardy

Pretty standard Aidan O'Brien stuff. Unless it looks like a Camelot or Australia from day one, he's not afraid to race them pretty frequently until they hit their stride - just ask Homecoming Queen!
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Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:58 am

Free Drop Billy is a flashy boy. Any chance for Good Magic here?
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Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:14 pm

US Navy Flag looked pretty good on the track this morning. Still interested in seeing what he'll do and why the Wizard of Ballydoyle chose to send the son of War Front on the dirt, and keep the half brother to Beholder and Into Mischief on the Turf...
A filly named Ruffian...

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Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
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Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:38 pm

Treve wrote:US Navy Flag looked pretty good on the track this morning. Still interested in seeing what he'll do and why the Wizard of Ballydoyle chose to send the son of War Front on the dirt, and keep the half brother to Beholder and Into Mischief on the Turf...
Ask and you shall receive!

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... -with-turf

I don't see why Coolmore didn't try sending Mendelssohn to Pletcher or whomever they use for US based dirt horses right off if they have any thought of Derby at all with him. I haven't looked much at him in action - does he move like a grass horse?
"He's dirt top and bottom—classic American dirt pedigree," O'Brien said. "We thought that we would come here and give him a chance on the grass and then maybe switch him after that and look at training him for the Kentucky Derby trials."
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Thu Nov 02, 2017 8:49 pm

bare it all wrote:
Treve wrote:US Navy Flag looked pretty good on the track this morning. Still interested in seeing what he'll do and why the Wizard of Ballydoyle chose to send the son of War Front on the dirt, and keep the half brother to Beholder and Into Mischief on the Turf...
Ask and you shall receive!

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... -with-turf

I don't see why Coolmore didn't try sending Mendelssohn to Pletcher or whomever they use for US based dirt horses right off if they have any thought of Derby at all with him. I haven't looked much at him in action - does he move like a grass horse?
"He's dirt top and bottom—classic American dirt pedigree," O'Brien said. "We thought that we would come here and give him a chance on the grass and then maybe switch him after that and look at training him for the Kentucky Derby trials."
Thank you! Makes sense, and I do suppose that the Juvie Turf is a softer spot than the Juvie.
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Fri Nov 03, 2017 1:08 am

Bolt D'Oro
Free Drop Billy
Good Magic
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Sat Nov 04, 2017 2:05 pm

Bolt really looks like a man among boys in here. Not sure how big/how many hands he actually is, but I remember thinking how much more physically mature he looked than all those around him while traversing down the backstretch in a previous race. I also like how versatile he's shown to be early in his career, having won from being up on the pace and also while sitting off of it. And pedigree-wise, his is second to none. Otherwise, the Breeders Futurity and Champagne winners appear to be the most likely to upset based on speed figs.
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Sat Nov 04, 2017 2:14 pm

This is the race I'm most interested in. Triple Crown opportunity is revealed now, not in May or June
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Sat Nov 04, 2017 7:08 pm

Totally missed this race on the Breeders Cup site due to buffering. Ticked off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
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Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:37 pm

So, Good Magic did have a chance haha.
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Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:51 pm

Bolt was way wide on both turns and still closed to finish just behind the place horse. Given the way he ran and his pedigree, I would still put him up at the top of the list going into next year's TC events. The winner also looks good going forward and has the pedigree to stretch out.
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Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:27 am

A better position and he had a better chance to win, he looked a little spent after his journey wide. I'd take him next time!!!
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Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:26 am

Given the expectations for Bolt d'Oro (especially from Mick Ruis' comments) this was a major disappointment. Yes, he didn't have a perfect trip and he did close ground, but I'd start looking elsewhere for the next superstar.
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Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:29 pm

Bolt d'Oro is a very good young colt. But he will never win the Kentucky Derby with Nakatani on. American Pharoah wouldn't have.
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Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:35 pm

Spahny wrote:Bolt d'Oro is a very good young colt. But he will never win the Kentucky Derby with Nakatani on. American Pharoah wouldn't have.
I agree. I hope they change pilots on him.
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