Breeders' Cup prep probables?

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Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:28 am

For me it looks like the Joe Hirsch is the race of the weekend! They should be thrilled to get a race like that put together.
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After that 'Holy Cow!' win in the Beldame against older, I'd put Elate near the top of possible entrants in the BC Distaff. She was blocked in the stretch, but found a seam and just left the rest of the field behind, by what looked like double digits, geared down. That MdO filly has really blossomed.
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BaroqueAgain1 wrote:After that 'Holy Cow!' win in the Beldame against older, I'd put Elate near the top of possible entrants in the BC Distaff. She was blocked in the stretch, but found a seam and just left the rest of the field behind, by what looked like double digits, geared down. That MdO filly has really blossomed.

She is fearless----an awesome win for her
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The Left Coast G1 for fillies and mares, the Lady's Secret...I mean, the Zenyatta...was also won by a three-year-old filly. However, Paradise Wood's dominant win doesn't mean quite as much to me since she was facing only three other horses. :(
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Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:39 am

True dat, but she showed the kind of blitzkrieg runemofftheirfeet talent that she hadn't shown in her last two starts. Will make the BCD more interesting--could certainly set up for the Unbridled Whatever. (I can't remember if its U/F or F/U.)
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BaroqueAgain1 wrote:The Left Coast G1 for fillies and mares, the Lady's Secret...I mean, the Zenyatta...was also won by a three-year-old filly. However, Paradise Wood's dominant win doesn't mean quite as much to me since she was facing only three other horses. :(

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Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:40 pm

Visually Elate was very impressive, but I hadn't even heard of the place and show horses and the BSF was pretty slow. Meanwhile, it's hard to imagine that Paradise Woods gets a similar trip in the BC. Looks like the Distaff is going to be a tough race to figure.
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Of the major preps we've seen so far how many horses looked like playable entrants for BC races?

For me the standouts have been Bolt d'Oro and World Approval. Both look like excellent candidates for their races and will be super tough.

Other interesting parties are Elate, Paradise Woods, Sharp Azteca, Moonshine Memories and Takaful.

Being perfectly honest I have no idea what to do with Beach Patrol
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Tessablue wrote:Visually Elate was very impressive, but I hadn't even heard of the place and show horses and the BSF was pretty slow. Meanwhile, it's hard to imagine that Paradise Woods gets a similar trip in the BC. Looks like the Distaff is going to be a tough race to figure.
The track had to be drying out by the time of her race, though. Maybe that hindered it.
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Somnambulist wrote:
Tessablue wrote:Visually Elate was very impressive, but I hadn't even heard of the place and show horses and the BSF was pretty slow. Meanwhile, it's hard to imagine that Paradise Woods gets a similar trip in the BC. Looks like the Distaff is going to be a tough race to figure.
The track had to be drying out by the time of her race, though. Maybe that hindered it.
Totally possible. She did close genuinely quickly and it's possible that the pace precluded a better time or figure, I just see a lot of question marks and I'm always leery of Belmont-preppers in west-coast BCs... she certainly won't be the only one with unanswered questions going in, however.
Kennedy wrote:Of the major preps we've seen so far how many horses looked like playable entrants for BC races?

For me the standouts have been Bolt d'Oro and World Approval. Both look like excellent candidates for their races and will be super tough.

Other interesting parties are Elate, Paradise Woods, Sharp Azteca, Moonshine Memories and Takaful.

Being perfectly honest I have no idea what to do with Beach Patrol
I don't know what to do with him either, or the turf division in general. But I do know that I love Imperial Hint as a potential longshot for the Sprint, which may well turn out to be the race of the day. Drefong, Takaful, Imperial Hint, and El Deal are all crazy talented.
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Disco Partner just won the Belmont Turf Sprint Invitational in his patented 'eat my afterburner dust' charge in the stretch. Just missed the track record, according to the TVG guy.
If the little grey NY-bred doesn't come west for the BC Turf Sprint, I will be very disappointed. :P
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Vale Dori will not run in the 2017 Breeders’ Cup, trainer Bob Baffert said Sunday at Santa Anita. The 5-year-old mare, runner-up by a neck to Stellar Wind in successive Grade 1 races in spring and summer, will be freshened for a “couple months” and return for the winter meet at Santa Anita. Vale Dori won five successive graded stakes prior to finishing second to Stellar Wind.

http://live.drf.com/nuggets/39094-vale- ... for-winter
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Christophe Clement‏ @clementstable
Mr & Mrs Generazio have decided to supplement DISCO PARTNER to the @BreedersCup w/@iradortiz -excited after yesterday's stellar performance!
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:D :D :D
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^^^Thought you'd like that.

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Per #Keeneland notes, Shadwell winner Suedois likely for @BreedersCup Mile, stablemate Mondialiste likely retired. Both leave here Tuesday.
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Not surprising news about Mondialiste. He hasn't seemed to recover the form that he had last year...or was it 2015?
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Mondialiste won the Arlington Million last year and earned $1.8 million over his career. It'll be interesting to see where he ends up.

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Baffert also said Cupid is under consideration for the Breeders' Cup Dirt Mile, but he has to talk to ownership. Classic is unlikely.
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Today's LA Woman at Santa Anita wasn't technically a Breeders' Cup prep, but it saw the successful return of that big grey bullet train, Unique Bella. She didn't break all that well, but still ended up winning for fun. She looked great.
Mike Smith said after the race that it may have been better that she had to work a bit to pass the field for the win, as she got more out of the race than she would have if she broke on top and just cantered off with the win. :P ;)
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Been following her since she came over. She is BC nominated.

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Your comments for this horse were: 2013 War Front - Black Speck, by Arch; Shug for Allen; Grp winner in France
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Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:47 pm

Is Shug talking about running her in the BC Turf at 12 furlongs? Wasn't the Flower Bowl a prep for the F&M Turf (which is going to be run at only 9 furlongs at Del Mar, IIRC)?
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