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Flanders
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:14 pm

bare it all wrote:Forever Together (IRE): Galileo x Green Room (making this filly a half to Lord Shanakill)... not the well known US-based Champion Turf Mare Forever Together
She is also a full sister to G1 winner Together Forever.
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Sat Jun 02, 2018 9:25 am

Live coverage of Epsom starts at 1000 Eastern on NBCSN. Post time for the Derby is 1130.
carole
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Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:12 am

John Gosden reported today that Cracksman hit his head hard on the stalls right before the gates opened and that's why he slightly missed the break.
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Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:21 am

I would love to see Caspian Prince win the Dash for a fourth time.
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Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:37 am

Masar wins the Derby! Dee Ex Bee 2nd, Roaring Lion 3rd, Saxon Warrior 4th and Hazapour 5th

First win in the Derby for Godolphin

Also the first win for William Buick and Charlie Appelby
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ThreeMustangs
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Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:55 am

Not a great trip for Saxon Warrior, but I don’t think he would have caught Masar even with a perfect trip.
BaroqueAgain1
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Sat Jun 02, 2018 1:31 pm

Yeah, Saxon Warrior was boxed in for quite a while and, when Ryan tried to get him out, he was blocked and had to check a little. Maybe he wouldn't have caught Masar but, if he had been able to make a continuous run with no obstacles, he would have been much closer, IMHO.
Nice pedigree on Masar...by the 2008 Derby winner New Approach (Galileo) out of Khawlah (Cape Cross), who took the UAE Oaks and the UAE Derby at Meydan in 2011.
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Sun Jun 03, 2018 7:16 pm

Study of Man gives Deep Impact a European Derby win after all as he wins the Prix Du Jockey Club (G1) at Chantilly

His Grand-Dam is also the mighty Miesque
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Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:14 pm

Ward will lead U.S. invasion of Royal Ascot
http://www.drf.com/news/ward-will-lead- ... oyal-ascot
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Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:27 pm

Holy crap! https://twitter.com/equidia/status/1003698407293227009
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Ride of the season from Elaura Cieslik today in France? Saddle slips in straight, but rides on bareback to win by 3/4 length. Calm and courage to rival any big-name jock.
Look for the white shadow roll near the rail - #2 in blue/white silks. Saddle was completely upside down and back to the stifle! :shock:
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Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:51 pm

lurkey mclurker wrote:Holy crap! https://twitter.com/equidia/status/1003698407293227009
Alex Cairns @ACHorseRacing
5h 5 hours ago

Ride of the season from Elaura Cieslik today in France? Saddle slips in straight, but rides on bareback to win by 3/4 length. Calm and courage to rival any big-name jock.
Look for the white shadow roll near the rail - #2 in blue/white silks. Saddle was completely upside down and back to the stifle! :shock:
Amazing! Hats off to BOTH horse and jockey! I wonder if she will get an invite to the Palio :lol: ?
How to keep your cool... reminds me of another female jockey was it in Australia? Where the bridle broke off and she rode her horse bitless to the finish (didn't win but kept calm and sat quietly holding the reins around the neck until horse slowed down).
A filly named Ruffian...

Eine Stute namens Danedream...

Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
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Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:46 am

Whooooooooah, I would have been a goner :lol: Gotta give the horse some credit too, both stayed calm. Could have been so much worse if the horse spooked. What a great ride, I would give him double % of the winners purse as an owner.
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Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:47 am

I am wondering if we actually should open up a thread called "Riding feats and other curiosities" so stuff like this doesn't get buried, I'm sure more people would enjoy that vid. :lol:
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Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:58 am

Kurenai wrote:I am wondering if we actually should open up a thread called "Riding feats and other curiosities" so stuff like this doesn't get buried, I'm sure more people would enjoy that vid. :lol:
Go for it. Great idea.
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Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:52 pm

Kurenai wrote:Whooooooooah, I would have been a goner :lol: Gotta give the horse some credit too, both stayed calm. Could have been so much worse if the horse spooked. What a great ride, I would give him double % of the winners purse as an owner.
Her ;)
But yes I agree my first thought was "hats off to her for improvising how she did hanging off the side then climbing back on, and then kudos to the horse for staying all business :lol:
A filly named Ruffian...

Eine Stute namens Danedream...

Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
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Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:31 pm

Good read....Chantilly....bucket list

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/15/spor ... orest.html
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:13 am

I see that Dortmund just ran in the 5th at Kembla Grange in Australia. :P ;)
It's funny when a different TB name registry allows the use of a pretty well-known name.
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Flanders
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Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:43 am

I edited this like 8 times. First I want to say, I'm just having a conversation not being argumentative. I wanted to add that because I don't want to come across harsh or something because that is not my intent. I've always found the International list of protected names interesting and truly how few horses are on it.
BaroqueAgain1 wrote:I see that Dortmund just ran in the 5th at Kembla Grange in Australia. :P ;)
It's funny when a different TB name registry allows the use of a pretty well-known name.
Not really, while he might be well known in the US, he didn't win a G1 race since the SA Derby at 3. There are way more talented US horses that aren't on the list including Azeri, Holy Bull, Point Given, Serena's Song and countless others. Honestly if Justify doesn't win the BC Classic, his name won't even automatically go onto the list. They have added him to the Temporary protected names list though along with Cracksman. In the grand scheme of things, if every horse that won at G1 race in every country or was a Champion was added to the list, names would go away super fast.

Surprisingly, there are only 3069 names that are Internationally protected. In 2009 the committee removed almost 1600 names from the list from pre-1950, you can view those on the 2009 list.(the link to all is at the bottom)

Since 2005, the only racehorses that get protected are winners of:
Gran Premio Carlos Pellegrini, Grande Premio Brazil (South America)
Cox Plate (2005), Melbourne Cup (from 2006 onwards), Dubai World Cup, Hong Kong Cup, Japan Cup (Asia)
Prix de l’Arc de Triomphe, King George VI and Queen Elizabeth Stakes, Irish Champion(Europe)
Breeders’ Cup Classic, Breeders’ Cup Turf (North America)

From 1996 - 2004:
from 1996 to 2004, the winners of the nine following international races :
Gran Premio Carlos Pellegrini, Grande Premio Brazil (South America)
Japan Cup, Melbourne Cup (Asia)
Prix de l’Arc de Triomphe, King George VI and Queen Elizabeth Stakes, Queen Elizabeth II Stakes(Europe)
Breeders’ Cup Classic, Breeders’ Cup Turf (North America)

Prior to 1995:
Preis der Diana, Deutsches Derby, Preis von Europa (Germany)
Kentucky Derby, Preakness Stakes, Belmont Stakes, Jockey Club Gold Cup, Breeders’ Cup Turf, Breeders’ Cup Classic (United States of America)
Poule d’Essai des Poulains, Poule d’Essai des Pouliches, Prix du Jockey Club, Prix de Diane, Grand Prix de Paris, Prix Vermeille, Prix de l’Arc de Triomphe (France)
1000 Guineas, 2000 Guineas, Oaks, Derby, Ascot Gold Cup, King George VI and Queen Elizabeth, St Leger, Grand National (Great Britain)
Irish 1000 Guineas, 2000 Guineas, Derby, Oaks, Saint Leger (Ireland)
Premio Regina Elena, Premio Parioli, Derby Italiano, Oaks (Italia)

Broodmares and stallions can also make the list by meeting the following criteria:
-Broodmares who have produced at least two Group 1 winners and one other Black Type winner.
-Stallions who have produced at least 15 individual Group 1 winners.

Plus each country can submit 3 racehorses and 3 breeding stock horses each year to be considered for addition on the protection list.

You can view the list here: http://www.horseracingintfed.com/Defaul ... ces&area=5
carole
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Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:27 pm

Another incredible ride, this time from New Zealand! Watch the no.6, falls completely on its belly at the first but jockey does a miraculous recovery and the pair go on to win!
https://youtu.be/mFrkOQZEpfU
BaroqueAgain1
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Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:49 pm

Thanks for the info and the links, Flanders.
I wasn't suggesting that Dortmund's name be protected, because it's true that his career wasn't especially noteworthy. I just find it interesting/amusing when a name that I know well pops up in a foreign post parade. Heck, I even see famous TB names used for American SBs. I think I saw a Tapit trotting sometime in the last couple of years. :lol:
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