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Re: Across the pond

PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:48 pm
by Kennedy
BaroqueAgain1 wrote:The cards for the Champions Day races have been changing a bit, but obviously not finalized. For example, Idaho is listed in the field of the Long Distance Cup but, since he just ran yesterday at Woodbine, I'm pretty sure he's NOT running at Ascot. :P
https://www.racingpost.com/racecards/2/ascot/2017-10-21
I'm not sure when the post position draw is...maybe tomorrow?
One O'Brien horse (out of the possible herd he has entered ATM) who is missing from these races is Winter. That's a bit surprising; I thought the big grey filly would at least be in the F&M Stakes. :? Maybe her Arc run took a lot out of her and O'Brien needs to back off on her?


I've heard that Winter is prepping for a tilt stateside at the BC. I would assume the FM Turf but you never know with O'Brien. Winter could conceivably try any number of races.

Re: Across the pond

PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:07 pm
by BaroqueAgain1
I think that we'll see more Coolmore horses at Del Mar than may have been originally planned. It looks like Ascot is going to be wet...maybe really wet...this weekend, so any of their runners who prefer firm ground (like Caravaggio? 8-)) could have O'Brien considering California as an option.
If Winter targets the F&M Turf, I'm pretty sure she'll be a favorite.

Re: Across the pond

PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:34 pm
by Kennedy
BaroqueAgain1 wrote:I think that we'll see more Coolmore horses at Del Mar than may have been originally planned. It looks like Ascot is going to be wet...maybe really wet...this weekend, so any of their runners who prefer firm ground (like Caravaggio? 8-)) could have O'Brien considering California as an option.
If Winter targets the F&M Turf, I'm pretty sure she'll be a favorite.


It could be quite a boon for the BC as far as European participation goes. As for Winter being favored....I think it may get billed as Lady Eli vs Winter but I doubt Winter will be favored unless the Coolmore boys ensure it themselves.

Re: Across the pond

PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:41 pm
by BaroqueAgain1
I had wondered if the impressive E P Taylor winner, Blond Me, might come to Del Mar, but it sounds like her trainer is considering Hong Kong instead.
https://www.racingpost.com/news/interna ... ess/304831

Re: Across the pond

PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:18 pm
by BaroqueAgain1
The weather may really be a factor for Champions Day at Ascot. :shock:
"Gusts are forecast to reach nearly 50mph with a risk of exceeding that figure. On the Beaufort scale, this registers in the strong to severe gale category, and is less than 10mph away from storm proportions. Heavy downpours are also forecast for good measure."
Read more: https://www.racingpost.com/news/champio ... ast/305108

Re: Across the pond

PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:32 pm
by BaroqueAgain1
It looks like post positions have been drawn for Champions Day, although changes will clearly be coming. There are quite a few cross-entered, like Churchill and Lancaster Bomber for both the QE II and the Champion Stakes. And Idaho is still in the Long Distance Cup. :?
https://www.racingpost.com/racecards/2/ascot/2017-10-21

Re: Across the pond

PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:50 am
by ThreeMustangs
Churchill and Lancaster Bomber are running in the QEII. I think Churchill will like tne return to a mile.

Re: Across the pond

PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:06 pm
by Sparrow Castle
Champion Stakes Loses Ulysses to Breeders' Cup
Some classic confrontations are on tap for the season-topping but storm-threatened QIPCO British Champions Day at Ascot Oct. 21 although the event lost a marquee name in Ulysses, who will head directly for the Breeders' Cup World Championships at Del Mar.

Champions Day includes four group 1 events and a group 2. Started in 2011, the program has evolved quickly into a major year-end target for UK racing. Championships are, in fact, on the line and this year's event is spiced by trainer Aidan O'Brien's chase after the late Bobby Frankel's record of 25 top-level victories in a season—a mark he seems well placed to surpass at Ascot.

The only cloud on the horizon is the weather. British Met Office issued warnings for wind gusts as high as 50 mph for race day, along with the chance of heavy rain. Ascot officials said they are prepared and hoping for the best.

The QIPCO Champion Stakes (G1), at 1 1/4 miles, attracted a field of 10 with some star 3-year-olds well favored. With potential favorite Ulysses surprisingly bypassing the race in favor of the Longines Breeders' Cup Turf (G1T) Nov. 4, veteran multiple grade/group 1 winner Highland Reel is the main hope among older runners and nasty weather would not favor his cause.

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/224194/champion-stakes-loses-ulysses-to-breeders-cup

Re: Across the pond

PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:54 pm
by BaroqueAgain1
The card:
https://www.racingpost.com/racecards/2/ascot/2017-10-21

A few thoughts;
I'm surprised that Caravaggio is still entered in the Sprint. IIRC, the big Scat Daddy colt runs his best on firm turf. Guess I thought O'Brien would swerve the Ascot races to find better ground at Del Mar for Caravaggio. He's up against a stout field and, as much as I love the nearly-black colt, I think I'm leaning toward Harry Angel or The Tin Man for the win.
While Highland Reel may like to hear his feet rattle, at least he has shown the ability to handle good-to-soft. His speed may let him go to the front and hold off closers who are fighting a surface that looks to be wet and soft.
Hydrangea is in the F&M race, but the other Flower Filly, Rhododendron, seems to be missing. Maybe she'll be joining Roly Poly on the flight to California?

Re: Across the pond

PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:05 pm
by BaroqueAgain1
We won't see Winter at Del Mar; the classy grey filly won't be running again this year.
https://www.paulickreport.com/news/thor ... -yet-2018/
I hope she runs next year. Since she's a bit larger than your average Galileo filly, she might do well if given more time to mature. And be even better as a four-year-old, which could be VERY good. :P :D