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BaroqueAgain1 wrote:The cards for the Champions Day races have been changing a bit, but obviously not finalized. For example, Idaho is listed in the field of the Long Distance Cup but, since he just ran yesterday at Woodbine, I'm pretty sure he's NOT running at Ascot. :P
https://www.racingpost.com/racecards/2/ascot/2017-10-21
I'm not sure when the post position draw is...maybe tomorrow?
One O'Brien horse (out of the possible herd he has entered ATM) who is missing from these races is Winter. That's a bit surprising; I thought the big grey filly would at least be in the F&M Stakes. :? Maybe her Arc run took a lot out of her and O'Brien needs to back off on her?
I've heard that Winter is prepping for a tilt stateside at the BC. I would assume the FM Turf but you never know with O'Brien. Winter could conceivably try any number of races.
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Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:07 pm

I think that we'll see more Coolmore horses at Del Mar than may have been originally planned. It looks like Ascot is going to be wet...maybe really wet...this weekend, so any of their runners who prefer firm ground (like Caravaggio? 8-)) could have O'Brien considering California as an option.
If Winter targets the F&M Turf, I'm pretty sure she'll be a favorite.
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Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:34 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:I think that we'll see more Coolmore horses at Del Mar than may have been originally planned. It looks like Ascot is going to be wet...maybe really wet...this weekend, so any of their runners who prefer firm ground (like Caravaggio? 8-)) could have O'Brien considering California as an option.
If Winter targets the F&M Turf, I'm pretty sure she'll be a favorite.
It could be quite a boon for the BC as far as European participation goes. As for Winter being favored....I think it may get billed as Lady Eli vs Winter but I doubt Winter will be favored unless the Coolmore boys ensure it themselves.
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Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:41 pm

I had wondered if the impressive E P Taylor winner, Blond Me, might come to Del Mar, but it sounds like her trainer is considering Hong Kong instead.
https://www.racingpost.com/news/interna ... ess/304831
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Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:18 pm

The weather may really be a factor for Champions Day at Ascot. :shock:
"Gusts are forecast to reach nearly 50mph with a risk of exceeding that figure. On the Beaufort scale, this registers in the strong to severe gale category, and is less than 10mph away from storm proportions. Heavy downpours are also forecast for good measure."
Read more: https://www.racingpost.com/news/champio ... ast/305108
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Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:32 pm

It looks like post positions have been drawn for Champions Day, although changes will clearly be coming. There are quite a few cross-entered, like Churchill and Lancaster Bomber for both the QE II and the Champion Stakes. And Idaho is still in the Long Distance Cup. :?
https://www.racingpost.com/racecards/2/ascot/2017-10-21
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Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:50 am

Churchill and Lancaster Bomber are running in the QEII. I think Churchill will like tne return to a mile.
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Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:06 pm

Champion Stakes Loses Ulysses to Breeders' Cup
Some classic confrontations are on tap for the season-topping but storm-threatened QIPCO British Champions Day at Ascot Oct. 21 although the event lost a marquee name in Ulysses, who will head directly for the Breeders' Cup World Championships at Del Mar.

Champions Day includes four group 1 events and a group 2. Started in 2011, the program has evolved quickly into a major year-end target for UK racing. Championships are, in fact, on the line and this year's event is spiced by trainer Aidan O'Brien's chase after the late Bobby Frankel's record of 25 top-level victories in a season—a mark he seems well placed to surpass at Ascot.

The only cloud on the horizon is the weather. British Met Office issued warnings for wind gusts as high as 50 mph for race day, along with the chance of heavy rain. Ascot officials said they are prepared and hoping for the best.

The QIPCO Champion Stakes (G1), at 1 1/4 miles, attracted a field of 10 with some star 3-year-olds well favored. With potential favorite Ulysses surprisingly bypassing the race in favor of the Longines Breeders' Cup Turf (G1T) Nov. 4, veteran multiple grade/group 1 winner Highland Reel is the main hope among older runners and nasty weather would not favor his cause.
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... eeders-cup
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Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:54 pm

The card:
https://www.racingpost.com/racecards/2/ascot/2017-10-21

A few thoughts;
I'm surprised that Caravaggio is still entered in the Sprint. IIRC, the big Scat Daddy colt runs his best on firm turf. Guess I thought O'Brien would swerve the Ascot races to find better ground at Del Mar for Caravaggio. He's up against a stout field and, as much as I love the nearly-black colt, I think I'm leaning toward Harry Angel or The Tin Man for the win.
While Highland Reel may like to hear his feet rattle, at least he has shown the ability to handle good-to-soft. His speed may let him go to the front and hold off closers who are fighting a surface that looks to be wet and soft.
Hydrangea is in the F&M race, but the other Flower Filly, Rhododendron, seems to be missing. Maybe she'll be joining Roly Poly on the flight to California?
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Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:05 pm

We won't see Winter at Del Mar; the classy grey filly won't be running again this year.
https://www.paulickreport.com/news/thor ... -yet-2018/
I hope she runs next year. Since she's a bit larger than your average Galileo filly, she might do well if given more time to mature. And be even better as a four-year-old, which could be VERY good. :P :D
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Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:43 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:We won't see Winter at Del Mar; the classy grey filly won't be running again this year.
https://www.paulickreport.com/news/thor ... -yet-2018/
I hope she runs next year. Since she's a bit larger than your average Galileo filly, she might do well if given more time to mature. And be even better as a four-year-old, which could be VERY good. :P :D
I was wondering whatever happened to her hunky older full-brother whom I spied on PedigreeQuery. He is one handsome sonofagun.
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Sat Oct 21, 2017 11:15 am

Cracksman is a monster. Frankie may have to make some tough decisions next year. Poor guy.
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Sat Oct 21, 2017 1:02 pm

The appropriately named Boom Time lands the Caulfield Cup at 50-1

https://thewest.com.au/sport/horse-raci ... b88636101z (with replay)
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Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:13 pm

I had to wait until I'd caught up with my DVR'd Ascot card before I opened any horse racing sites. (Sorry, but crack o'dawn is a bit too early for this late-rising Left Coaster. Especially since I'd stayed up to watch the racing from Oz. :P)
A few thoughts;
* Yeah, Cracksman was impressive. IMO, he's the best horse Frankel has sired.
Brave run by Highland Reel to just miss 2nd, considering how much he doesn't like soft ground. I understand why Ballydoyle chose this race over the BC Turf; that Champions Stakes trophy is something that they really wanted for HR. I would be surprised if we see HR at Del Mar; I have to think today's really hard race would leave him still recovering two weeks from now.
* Wasn't able to see the Long Distance Cup as the race went off before TVG began its coverage, but I'm really pleased for Order of St George. Too bad the race for the stayers isn't also a G1, because now Aiden would have that record. At least he tied Bobby F. with Hydrangea's no-wilting-here win in the G1 F&M Stakes, giving O'Brien 25 G1 wins so far this year.
* I see I have to stop calling Caravaggio the 'nearly-black' colt; he's going grey on his head and his body is covered with grey dapples. Too bad he just missed 2nd in the Sprint, finishing a nostril behind Tasleet and the upset winner, Librisa Breeze.
* Frankie Dettori rode a talented filly to victory in the QE II; this time it was pretty grey Persuasive who earned him time with The Queen, as she handed out the trophies for the race.
* Have to congratulate all the handlers and riders today. The wind was blowing so hard that the horses were really spooked and on edge. But I never saw anyone get kicked or dumped.
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I would be surprised if we see HR at Del Mar; I have to think today's really hard race would leave him still recovering two weeks from now.

Or maybe not....
https://www.paulickreport.com/news/bree ... ontingent/
This is why my opinion is humble. :lol:
In addition to Coolmore's iron horse, we may get to see a bunch of Ballydoyle stars. The bolding is mine.

Highland Reel will head a typically strong Breeders' Cup squad from Ballydoyle.
“I'm not sure about Hydrangea, but Rhododendron will go for the fillies' race and Roly Poly will either go for that or the Mile,” said O'Brien.
“We will see how Churchill is in the next few days and the lads will make a decision on what they want to do with him. It will be the same with Caravaggio. He could go up in trip, but I don't think he needs to.

And...
September was second in the Fillies' Mile and could go (to Del Mar), and Happily didn't run at Newmarket so we will see how she is and she could go there. Clemmie is finished for the year.
U S Navy Flag is a possible, as are the other horses that ran in the Dewhurst.
Declarationofpeace is going for a five-furlong race out there on grass. War Decree could go for the Classic or the Mile.”


Is there another five furlong grass sprint that weekend, besides the Turf Sprint? Would O'Brien run Declarationofpeace against his stablemate Caravaggio? Maybe Caravaggio would be a good fit for the Mile, where he wouldn't have to face Lady Aurelia, Marsha, Bataash and the grey pocket rocket Disco Partner.
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Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:52 pm

There's a press release on Paulick about the new training center on the Chinese mainland, and the processes for transporting Hong Kong horses to Conghua.
https://www.paulickreport.com/news/the- ... ter-china/

The press release doesn't mention Australia's decision to bar Hong Kong horses...or what steps China is taking to change that. :roll:
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Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:20 pm

Love to see Declarationofpeace come over here and do well.
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Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:36 am

Aidan O’Brien wins the Racing Post with Saxon Warrior to take his 26th G1 of the year, breaking Bobby Frankel’s record.
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Sat Oct 28, 2017 12:59 pm

Looking at the BC pre-entries, I've noticed some names I expected to see are absent, particularly in the Turf Sprint. O'Brien has apparently decided not bring Caravaggio over to face Lady Aurelia and Marsha. Also missing from the list is Bataash, whose connections talked about bringing him to Del Mar after his last race.
The only Coolmore entry in the Turf Sprint is Washington DC (IRE).
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Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:02 pm

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... qus_thread

Tiberian (FR) and Marmelo (GB) among foreign invaders to the Melbourne Cup
A filly named Ruffian...

Eine Stute namens Danedream...

Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
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