Breeders' Cup News & Notes - 2017

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Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:42 pm

BB is probably wondering if anyone will notice if he switches Arrogate and Collected in the gate. What an amazing draw for those two. . . .
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Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:49 pm

Treve wrote:
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Treve wrote:I don't think it's a bad spot if Mike can keep him on the rail without getting into a traffic jam. On the other hand I'd be concerned if he has to drop back and go around the field because those tight turns and that short stretch won't be very forgiving.
That short stretch works more against Arrogate and Mike's riding style. Florent is a very savvy jockey. Mike will have a hard time trying to pin Gunner on the rail since Arrogate drew the #1 post.
I think you misunderstood my post, because that's exactly what I meant- I'd be worried for Arrogate, if Mike and Arrogate have to drop back and circle the field. I mean if Mike can keep Arrogate near the rail without running into traffic the 1 gate is an ok spot, precisely because again, the tight turns are unforgiving to a big, slow starting, long striding horse like Arro. My post had no mention of Gun Runner and was not about the Gun at all :)
Thanks - I most assuredly did misunderstand. Sorry - I was eating a Milky Way. and I'm such a nut case fan of The Gun.
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Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:00 pm

Ballerina wrote:
Treve wrote:
Ballerina wrote: That short stretch works more against Arrogate and Mike's riding style. Florent is a very savvy jockey. Mike will have a hard time trying to pin Gunner on the rail since Arrogate drew the #1 post.
I think you misunderstood my post, because that's exactly what I meant- I'd be worried for Arrogate, if Mike and Arrogate have to drop back and circle the field. I mean if Mike can keep Arrogate near the rail without running into traffic the 1 gate is an ok spot, precisely because again, the tight turns are unforgiving to a big, slow starting, long striding horse like Arro. My post had no mention of Gun Runner and was not about the Gun at all :)
Thanks - I most assuredly did misunderstand. Sorry - I was eating a Milky Way. and I'm such a nut case fan of The Gun.
Haha it happens! I'm not worried for Gun Runner, I think he drew great and he's so consistent I expect he'll run his race to the best of his ability which could very well be enough to hit the wire first. ;)
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Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:18 am

Baffy has 5 horses in this race.

Race riding will happen. I just hope nothing as deplorable as 2014.
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Somnambulist wrote: Race riding will happen. I just hope nothing as deplorable as 2014.
That still pisses me off to this day. Grmbl
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Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:53 am

As long as no one gets purposefully mugged like in the Derby or the 2014 edition... ahem.
And most importantly as long as everyone comes home safe!
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Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:57 pm

Somnambulist wrote:
Race riding will happen. I just hope nothing as deplorable as 2014.
All in the eye of the beholder. Having Bayern that day, I saw it as reinsmanship of the highest order. ;)
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Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:00 pm

Curtis wrote:
Somnambulist wrote:
Race riding will happen. I just hope nothing as deplorable as 2014.
All in the eye of the beholder. Having Bayern that day, I saw it as reinsmanship of the highest order. ;)
And seeing the coverage from the overhead blimp makes it all the clearer that optical illusions do exist.
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:41 pm

Baffy has 5 horses in this race.

"Just" four now :P ...Arrogate, Collected, Mubtaahij and West Coast. Cupid is headed for the Dirt Mile, along with Mor Spirit.
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I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:10 am

There will be 54 jockeys riding in the 13 BC races - total entry of 160 horses (does not include AEs)

Busiest jockeys will be

J. L. Ortiz - 12 races
J. R. Velazquez - 11 races
F. Prat - 10 races
J. Castellano - 9 races
M. E. Smith - 9 races
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Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:39 am

Sires with more than 1 Breeders Cup entry:

Galileo (IRE) - 8
Scat Daddy - 8
War Front - 8
Malibu Moon - 7
Medaglia d'Oro - 6
Curlin - 5
City Zip - 4
Kitten's Joy - 4
Candy Ride (ARG) - 3
Creative Cause - 3
Dark Angel (IRE) - 3
Dubawi (IRE) - 3
More Than Ready - 3
Tapit - 3
Blame - 2
Broken Vow - 2
Dansili (GB) - 2
Dialed In - 2
Exceed and Excel (AUS) - 2
Flatter - 2
Gio Ponti - 2
Lemon Drop Kid - 2
Northern Afleet - 2
Quality Road - 2
Stormy Atlantic - 2
Unbridled's Song - 2
Union Rags - 2
Zoffany (IRE) - 2
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I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Lovely. Wish I'd gone this year.
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Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:55 pm

Anywhere offering an online stream until the nbcsn broadcast starts?
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Fri Nov 03, 2017 1:46 pm

Ioya Two wrote:Anywhere offering an online stream until the nbcsn broadcast starts?
Not real sure if they're showing the races or just handicapping but you can try this.
http://www.xbtv.com/watch-live-2/
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Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:49 pm

The preliminary figs are in for the Breeders’ Cup races on Friday at Del Mar, provided by Andy Beyer.

Rushing Fall, Juvenile Fillies Turf (85)
Battle of Midway, Dirt Mile (108)
Mendelssohn, Juvenile Turf (86)
Forever Unbridled, Distaff (99)
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:55 pm

stark wrote:The preliminary figs are in for the Breeders’ Cup races on Friday at Del Mar, provided by Andy Beyer.

Rushing Fall, Juvenile Fillies Turf (85)
Battle of Midway, Dirt Mile (108)
Mendelssohn, Juvenile Turf (86)
Forever Unbridled, Distaff (99)
Wow, Mendelssohn's race looked a lot better than an 86.
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Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:13 pm

Life At Zen wrote:
stark wrote:The preliminary figs are in for the Breeders’ Cup races on Friday at Del Mar, provided by Andy Beyer.

Rushing Fall, Juvenile Fillies Turf (85)
Battle of Midway, Dirt Mile (108)
Mendelssohn, Juvenile Turf (86)
Forever Unbridled, Distaff (99)
Wow, Mendelssohn's race looked a lot better than an 86.
Ditto on FU I would've given it a low triple fig. But I guess that's why they're prelim?
A filly named Ruffian...

Eine Stute namens Danedream...

Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
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