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Re: Florida Derby

Postby Treve » Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:08 pm

I expected Gunnevera's win streak to get snapped here but I thought it would be a lot closer.
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Re: Florida Derby

Postby Somnambulist » Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:08 pm

Treve wrote:I expected Gunnevera's win streak to get snapped here but I thought it would be a lot closer.
Congrats to Always Dreaming and connections.


It's not easy to close at GP.

That said, that was not encouraging.
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Re: Florida Derby

Postby Horsebagger » Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:09 pm

Tessablue wrote:Always Dreaming won easy, I believe he checked early but he got a nice trip from there.

Perfectly happy with that effort from Gunnevera, should get better odds on him now.


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Re: Florida Derby

Postby Tessablue » Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:10 pm

Miss Woodford wrote:I feel like we call the 3yo crop terrible every year. It's because we look back at previous years and only remember the few great horses and not the bad ones who have *always* greatly outnumbered them.

At this point it's as much a Derby tradition as mint juleps!

I get that there really aren't any superstars this year, at least not yet, but it's incredibly difficult to judge the quality of crops before the year is up. I'd argue that 2013 was one of the best Derby fields in recent years (Orb, Will Take Charge, Palace Malice, Oxbow, Goldencents, Verrazano), but it certainly was not considered as much at the time. In any event, I still love handicapping the race!

Apparently Gunnevera hit the rail going into the first turn? Did anybody see that? He closed quite nicely into a slowish pace after being given far too much to do (and taking a weird left turn directly out of the gate), so I'm happy anyways, but that would add a bit of an extra dimension.
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Re: Florida Derby

Postby Somnambulist » Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:11 pm

Horsebagger wrote:
Bodemeister is a nice stallion


You called that one.
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Re: Florida Derby

Postby Somnambulist » Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:11 pm

This crop is pretty bad. I'm not really sure how anyone could say otherwise.
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Re: Florida Derby

Postby Treve » Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:14 pm

I don't find this crop that bad. But maybe I'm comparing to same time last year, which was truly bad. Which... just because it is better than that one doesn't make it 'good', I guess.
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Re: Florida Derby

Postby Somnambulist » Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:15 pm

Treve wrote:I don't find this crop that bad. But maybe I'm comparing to same time last year, which was truly bad. Which... just because it is better than that one doesn't make it 'good', I guess.


They just petered out as the year went on. At least there was form last year.
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Re: Florida Derby

Postby Tessablue » Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:16 pm

I think the nadir of recent Derbies has to be 2010. We've got a ways to go before we hit that low point!
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Re: Florida Derby

Postby Somnambulist » Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:21 pm

Tessablue wrote:I think the nadir of recent Derbies has to be 2010. We've got a ways to go before we hit that low point!


Strong use of nadir, but Super Saver was the most predictable winner of the Derby ever. IMO anyway.

Regardless of whether or not X year is worse it doesn't mean this year has anything stellar running in it. Classic Empire is too busy with Tepin and the rest of the Casse barn going sour. The good Romans horse is donezo.
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