Finger Lakes on the brink

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WaquoitNBroadBrush
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Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:03 am

http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/fi ... ow-for-ny/

Racing at FL may have breathed its last, thanks to the new casino a half hour down the road. What does it mean for folks who don't care about FL racing? Well for NYRA bettors, how about standard four- or five-horse fields to wager on instead of the now-standard six or seven, as the NY breeding industry contracts?

"49% of all starters at the NYRA tracks are state-breds. A shuttered Finger Lakes would no doubt lead to fewer horses being bred in the state and that would reduce the available horse population at NYRA."

The story concludes by saying that all involved are waiting and hoping for the state gub'mint to come through with a miracle solution! Oh, boy!
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Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:24 am

If horse racing needs slots to exist it should just die off. Why is horse racing entitled to slot money? It is insane. Perhaps Saratoga and a couple months at Belmont is all NY should have. Kill the slots and Aqueduct will die the death it deserves too. Sorry but NY horse racing just sponges off slots. Atleast with Gulfstream the owner owns it all. He competes with other casinos and is constantly making improvements to compete. Dumps like Fingerlakes and Aqueduct should be gone. The facilities are atrocious because they essentially are subsidized dumps that never improve in order to survive.
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Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:00 pm

If it's not profitable I don't know why there should be a miracle to save it, although I'm sure that's what will happen. It's just a band aid.

That sounds callous, and you have to be nervous about the effects but immediately and long term.
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Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:47 pm

I have been going to FL since it opened, so it is my home track. During the week, it is a mainly simulcast product with maybe 50-100 people in the stands. It means close to 1,500 jobs including area farms, but the time has come to say goodbye......
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Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:02 pm

FL is where we get our horses from at the rescue now that Suffolk is basically dead. It supports a lot of people -- most horsemen racing there are only racing there, and their livelihood hinges on state bred races and breeding. It breaks my heart, because it's not like there are billions to be made there, and every trainer I've talked to seemed to be in it because they didn't want to be doing anything else. It's a passion and a letdown.

Watching with interest, I guess. Most horses who race at FL are just wintering at the farm. They don't go anywhere else. What happens to the animals if FL shutters and trainees don't relocate? Oy...
Not a wholesome trottin' race, no, but a race where they sit down right on the horse!
Like to see some stuck-up jockey boy sittin' on Dan Patch? Make your blood boil? Well, I should say!
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Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:36 pm

Sounds like they are trying to hook up another oxygen tank...

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... -discussed

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Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:04 am

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... nger-lakes

Don't mind the local casino contributing money, though I find it interesting that they were totally on board.
Not a wholesome trottin' race, no, but a race where they sit down right on the horse!
Like to see some stuck-up jockey boy sittin' on Dan Patch? Make your blood boil? Well, I should say!
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Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:32 am

Finger Lakes Racing Dates Could Plummet Under Proposal

The number of racing dates at New York's Finger Lakes racetrack could plummet by at least 15 percent under a proposal pushed by state officials to help the track cope with competition from a newly opened commercial casino just a half hour's drive from the Thoroughbred track.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... r-proposal
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Fri Feb 24, 2017 11:18 am

PJMIII wrote:Finger Lakes Racing Dates Could Plummet Under Proposal

The number of racing dates at New York's Finger Lakes racetrack could plummet by at least 15 percent under a proposal pushed by state officials to help the track cope with competition from a newly opened commercial casino just a half hour's drive from the Thoroughbred track.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... r-proposal
Reduced days is probably worse than reduced purses. One of the few attractions is they race a lot of days in the same place. Easy to puts kids into a local school and build a life. When Ross Morton the long time track announce died, they had a ton of applicants before settling on Tony Calo. Trainers, jocks and other backside folks like being able to build a life without switching venues every few months. They really need to rethink this.......
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Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:09 am

Temporary stay of execution...

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... track-open


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The latest:

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... nger-lakes

And the low level claimers breath a sigh of relief - for now...

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Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:10 pm

Purse agreement buys time for more permanent solution
If you look at the condition book for the 145-day Finger Lakes meet that begins Saturday, it seems like business as usual. Purses are the same as a year ago, and while the meet is 10 days shorter, not much else seems to have changed.

Looks can be deceiving.

The annual Finger Lakes purse structure of about $15 million largely comes from revenue generated by the racino’s video lottery terminals. Those funds are going to shrink markedly this year since a full-blown Las Vegas-style casino, the Del Lago, opened 30 miles away in February.

While Finger Lakes owner Delaware North received a tax break from the state to make up for the gaming business it is expected to lose, the Finger Lakes horsemen were not compensated, putting live racing at the track in jeopardy.

David Brown, the president of the Horsemen’s Benevolent and Protective Association at Finger Lakes, has worked the past three years to strike a deal with the state, Delaware North, and Del Lago to reimburse the horsemen. An agreement was finally reached last month.

“The deal was not particularly favorable to us, but with the timing of when we wanted to open, we felt it was good enough to move forward,” Brown said.
http://www.drf.com/news/purse-agreement ... t-solution
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Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:13 am

They will survive another year....and I will be there to bet all those 6 horse fields running 4 1/2 F.............
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Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:56 pm

Good news for Breakin the Fever...he's got his home track for another year. Love that guy.
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There was a TV show back in the 60's sponsored by some grocery chain in NY that featured Finger Lakes. It was some kind of a contest. I remember watching it everyday. That's what got me really hooked on racing. There were prizes like winning groceries.
And yeah, most races were 4 1/2 to 6 furlongs.

That's what happens if your father is stationed in radar installations on the Canadian border. You get hooked on horse racing.
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Wed Apr 26, 2017 2:45 pm

ElPrado2 wrote:There was a TV show back in the 60's sponsored by some grocery chain in NY that featured Finger Lakes. It was some kind of a contest. I remember watching it everyday. That's what got me really hooked on racing. There were prizes like winning groceries.
And yeah, most races were 4 1/2 to 6 furlongs.
Sounds like a localized version of the syndicated "Let's Go to the Races," in which you'd pick up game cards at participating supermarkets that had the numbers of the horses your "money" would be on in each of the half dozen or so races that were televised. The races themselves were usually from Florida, either Gulfstream or Hialeah, from several years previous. And almost all of the time, the horses on your game cards would find the most unlikely ways to lose.

Those 4 1/2-furlong races are only run the first few weeks of the FL season. Out here in simulcast land, I've always welcomed them as a sign that spring is here and Saratoga can't be far off. In the '70s, when I was in college at Syracuse, FL was known for something very different -- a meet-long series of distance races that would stretch beyond 3 and, eventually, 4 miles. I still recall two of the horses that won multiple events in that series: Eastern Warrior and Count Mafosta. I think a horse named Schumacher also took a few. The final furlongs of these races often made the sports highlights on the Syracuse TV news.
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Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:22 pm

I remember Count Mafosa! Oh my goodness that was so long ago.
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Skip-A-Way wrote:I remember Count Mafosa! Oh my goodness that was so long ago.
Tell me about it. I was in college then; tonight I'm wrapping up my 62nd birthday!

Just did a little research and found I misremembered Eastern Promise's (not Warrior) name. Also, I forgot about Amber Dare, who won THREE of those ultra-marathons, setting never-to-be-broken track records at 2 1/4, 2 5/8 and 4 1/16 miles. Victory Tour put an end to this foolishness on closing day in 1974, winning at 4 1/8 miles in 8:08 flat!
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Wed Apr 26, 2017 11:45 pm

I remember one horse somehow running in the race but ending it in what I guess was the saddling ring bucking like he was in the rodeo. The camera stayed on him. The jockey didn't.
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