Older Horses - 2017

BaroqueAgain1
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Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:04 pm

I know Hoppertunity's name has come up as a possible World Cup entrant, but what about Mor Spirit? Is it possible that he may end up on the plane to Dubai, as well?
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Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:13 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:I know Hoppertunity's name has come up as a possible World Cup entrant, but what about Mor Spirit? Is it possible that he may end up on the plane to Dubai, as well?
I wonder if he might start in the Godolphin Mile, but then again that's just pure speculation on my part.
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Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:57 am

Matt King Coal won the 3rd at Laurel Feb18 an AOC at 1mi by 4 1/4 in 1:35 I.Ortiz/L.Rice in his 1st race since Nov30.

Below is from DRF, Mike Watchmaker:
"Ortiz guided the talented Matt King Coal to a front-running score in the very next race, and with the choice to put that horse anywhere on the track he wanted, he smartly kept him away from the rail every step."
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Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:06 pm

5yo Fox Hill Farms runner Kentuckian got back on track with a win at Santa Anita this week in an AOC race. Hope he does well this year!

9yo Forest Mouse will seek his 3rd consecutive win this Sunday (2/26/17) at Sunland Park in the Curribot Handicap. Once again facing his old standing rival,
8yo g , Ol Winedrinker Who. Go get 'em Mouse...

Curribot H. - $75,000 Purse - 1 and 1/16 Miles - Race 7 - 4:03pm


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Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:13 pm

WarBiscuit wrote:5yo Fox Hill Farms runner Kentuckian got back on track with a win at Santa Anita this week in an AOC race. Hope he does well this year
I still remember his remarkable debut. He's never been able to string together very many races; I hope he has all of his physical issues behind him because he clearly has some ability.
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Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:31 pm

Mind Your Biscuits set for Gulfstream Park Sprint
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... ark-sprint
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Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:00 am

Starine wrote:Mind Your Biscuits set for Gulfstream Park Sprint
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... ark-sprint
Did I miss the memo where 22 year old Robert Falcone Jr got sacked as MYB's trainer? It was a nice story to follow last fall, but now co-owner Chad Summers has taken out his license and trains the horse.
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Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:27 am

Northport wrote:
Starine wrote:Mind Your Biscuits set for Gulfstream Park Sprint
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... ark-sprint
Did I miss the memo where 22 year old Robert Falcone Jr got sacked as MYB's trainer? It was a nice story to follow last fall, but now co-owner Chad Summers has taken out his license and trains the horse.
This DRF article on 2/9 was first I read about it, and his plans.

New trainer Summers ready to start fast with Mind Your Biscuits
Mind Your Biscuits was trained as a 2-year-old by Rodriguez, then for his last nine starts by 23-year-old Robert Falcone Jr. Summers said it pained him to take the horse away from Falcone.

“Robby did a great job with him,” Summers said. “I’m sure we’ll do business together again in the future. He’s a great kid with a promising future and an excellent opinion.”

Summers said the 6 1/2-furlong Gulfstream Sprint could serve as a prep for the $2 million Golden Shaheen on the March 25 Dubai World Cup undercard at Meydan.
http://www.drf.com/news/new-trainer-sum ... r-biscuits
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Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:24 pm

Malibu Sunset (4-Year-Old Colt)

Date: February 23, 2017
Track: FAIR GROUNDS
Distance: Five Furlongs
Time: 1.01:00 Breezing
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 2/28

Last race was April 2016 (7th in the California Chrome Stakes). He has been working steadily at the Fair Grounds. Anyone know if he is still with Baffert or had another trainer change?
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Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:37 pm

Starine wrote:Mind Your Biscuits set for Gulfstream Park Sprint
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... ark-sprint

Sheets are narrowing this down between Unified and Mind Your Biscuits (yeah, thanks for that, right?) Both seriously fast animals who are going to be factors in the G1 Carter, and ultimately the Met Mile if they can stay in one piece.

Mind Your Biscuits showing two low 3s late in his 3-yo year and with a little rest and training strongly, should be right there again with a big effort.

Unified debuted with an 8, then paired up a couple of 4 1/4s before disappointing in his first two turn race at Monmouth. Long layoff ensued, but word is that he's training strongly for his return. But will he be fit enough first back to throw a big effort good enough to deal with the Biscuit? And if he could, the question is SHOULD he, given the bigger races are ahead. G1 wins help the stallion deal with Lane's End, G3s don't, so motivation here is questionable. But he showed he could be special in his first few starts, so the 0s and 1s are coming eventually if he stays sound. It's just a matter of when.

Biscuit gets the better draw, as the rail and coming off the freshening, Unified is likely blasting out of there, with Delta Bluesman and Early Entry sitting off him and keeping him honest. Which sets up the stretch run question of whether Biscuit can run him down.

I'll play both in the Late P4 and enjoy the first of probable multiple battles the first half of the year between these two. Slight advantage goes to Mind Your Biscuits this weekend, but down the line there is more upside to Unified, imo.

Nice race for a G3 February sprint stake.
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Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:32 pm

‘Toast’ Could Return To Racing
Toast Of New York (Thewayyouare), winner of the 2014 G2 UAE Derby and second by a nose in that year’s GI Breeders’ Cup Classic, could return to training, Al Shaqab racing advisor Harry Herbert told the TDN on Friday. The 6-year-old stood his first season in Qatar last year but, with the small nature of the Thoroughbred breeding industry in that country, covered few mares. Herbert said Toast Of New York has been shipped back to the UK and is currently undergoing veterinary inspection to determine if a return to racing is possible.

“Toast Of New York is actually back in the UK at the moment, just looking at the possibility of getting him back on the racetrack,” Herbert said. “He sustained an injury that stopped him from running so he went to stud. He could stay [in Qatar] and not breed many mares, but we wanted to at least have a look to see if he could withstand training again. Duncan Moir, Al Shaqab’s vet, is on the case and we’re going to take it one step at a time but we might yet see him back on the track.”

Trained by Jamie Osborne initially for owner Michael Buckley, Toast Of New York made three starts in the U.S. after his UAE Derby win, finishing sixth in the GI Belmont Derby before filling second in both the Pacific Classic and Breeders’ Cup Classic. Toast Of New York was purchased privately by Al Shaqab thereafter but suffered a soft tissue injury while preparing for the 2015 G1 Dubai World Cup. An attempt was made to rehabilitate the horse from the injury but he was ultimately retired in late 2015.
http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/to ... 8l.twitter
BaroqueAgain1
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Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:03 pm

He was a pretty decent racehorse, but are his only options to stay in Qatar, where he has no support as a stallion, or to try to return to racing, despite the fact that his injury was severe enough to cause him to be retired?
Isn't there some farm in Europe or the US where he would find more support than he gets in Qatar?
This just seems like a recipe for him to suffer further injury. :( Hope I'm wrong.
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Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:59 pm

I find it odd that his owners, who are Qatari, were surprised by how small the Qatari breeding industry is and how few mares he got. Tbh when I saw he was going to stand in Qatar I just assumed Al Shaqab was going to be sending him their Z list/local mares, not that he was expected to be a commercial prospect.
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Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:08 pm

Horsebagger wrote:
Starine wrote:Mind Your Biscuits set for Gulfstream Park Sprint
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... ark-sprint

Sheets are narrowing this down between Unified and Mind Your Biscuits (yeah, thanks for that, right?) Both seriously fast animals who are going to be factors in the G1 Carter, and ultimately the Met Mile if they can stay in one piece.

Mind Your Biscuits showing two low 3s late in his 3-yo year and with a little rest and training strongly, should be right there again with a big effort.

Unified debuted with an 8, then paired up a couple of 4 1/4s before disappointing in his first two turn race at Monmouth. Long layoff ensued, but word is that he's training strongly for his return. But will he be fit enough first back to throw a big effort good enough to deal with the Biscuit? And if he could, the question is SHOULD he, given the bigger races are ahead. G1 wins help the stallion deal with Lane's End, G3s don't, so motivation here is questionable. But he showed he could be special in his first few starts, so the 0s and 1s are coming eventually if he stays sound. It's just a matter of when.

Biscuit gets the better draw, as the rail and coming off the freshening, Unified is likely blasting out of there, with Delta Bluesman and Early Entry sitting off him and keeping him honest. Which sets up the stretch run question of whether Biscuit can run him down.

I'll play both in the Late P4 and enjoy the first of probable multiple battles the first half of the year between these two. Slight advantage goes to Mind Your Biscuits this weekend, but down the line there is more upside to Unified, imo.

Nice race for a G3 February sprint stake.
Great race by two very very good horses. If they hold together, they are going to be meeting again down the line a few times, although MYB sounds like he is heading to Dubai and Unified to the Carter in their next starts.
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Sun Feb 26, 2017 7:44 pm

9yo Forest Mouse just won his 4th consecutive race taking the Curribot Handicap at Sunland Park. The old bird just keeps on cranking. Just a good, honest, hard trying horse who is beginning to eyeball the million dollar mark. Nice job Mouse!

56 - 24-11-6, $900,687.

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Mon Feb 27, 2017 7:10 am

Forest Mouse is fast approaching the million $ mark... if he can get another ~3-4 wins that milestone is his. I'll be right thefre to cheer him on! Go Mouse!
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Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:55 pm

How did Midnight Storm work this morning?
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Mon Feb 27, 2017 6:29 pm

Arrogate, Midnight Storm may both run in Dubai World Cup
Arrogate worked like the superstar he has become on Monday at Santa Anita, and will make his next start March 25 in the Grade 1, $10 million Dubai World Cup. Midnight Storm also worked like a star Monday at Santa Anita. The presumptive favorite for the Grade 1, $750,000 Santa Anita Handicap on March 11, he may also run in Dubai, which would preclude a start in the Big Cap.
The rest is behind the paywall: http://www.drf.com/news/preview/arrogat ... -world-cup

That's ambitious. Maybe Midnight Storm's connections are thinking that a 2nd place in a $10 million race is still worth a lot more than winning the Big Cap?
If Arrogate, Hoppertunity and Midnight Storm all head off to Dubai, that's probably going to mean a thin field for one of Santa Anita's premier races for older horses. Perhaps someone should ship in from the East Coast to take advantage?
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Mon Feb 27, 2017 6:42 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:Arrogate, Midnight Storm may both run in Dubai World Cup
Arrogate worked like the superstar he has become on Monday at Santa Anita, and will make his next start March 25 in the Grade 1, $10 million Dubai World Cup. Midnight Storm also worked like a star Monday at Santa Anita. The presumptive favorite for the Grade 1, $750,000 Santa Anita Handicap on March 11, he may also run in Dubai, which would preclude a start in the Big Cap.
The rest is behind the paywall: http://www.drf.com/news/preview/arrogat ... -world-cup

That's ambitious. Maybe Midnight Storm's connections are thinking that a 2nd place in a $10 million race is still worth a lot more than winning the Big Cap?
If Arrogate, Hoppertunity and Midnight Storm all head off to Dubai, that's probably going to mean a thin field for one of Santa Anita's premier races for older horses. Perhaps someone should ship in from the East Coast to take advantage?
Now that the purse for the Used to be Big 'Cap has been reduced to $750K, it is. I'm sure the Santa Anita publicity staff will have fun pushing, a what.... Imperative, Mor Spirit, Follow Me Crev match up? I think Santa Anita should design a new race running the first 10f on dirt before having the horses switch to the turf course and run another 4f. They can call it the Santa Anita Capistrano.
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Mon Feb 27, 2017 6:52 pm

We've come a long way from 2014's epic Big Cap, when a truly game Game On Dude defeated 2013 3yo champ Will Take Charge and BC Classic winner Mucho Macho Man. And Imperative. ;)
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