2017 Kentucky Derby News & Notes

peeptoad
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Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:21 pm

Be interested to see how the Hyacinth pays out next year. Hopefully Mont Saint Legame can make it to that race for maximum points.
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Wed Dec 07, 2016 10:04 am

Casse Mulls Derby Path for Classic Empire

Trainer Mark Casse has a tentative—stress the word "tentative"—route mapped out to get Sentient Jet Breeders' Cup Juvenile (gr. I) winner Classic Empire to the Kentucky Derby Presented by Yum! Brands (gr. I). And already the Canadian Hall of Fame conditioner is having to think about a curve in the road which recently manifested.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... sic-empire
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Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:59 am

Owner-Breeder-Trainer Dallas Stewart Points ‘Scary Good’ Saint’s Fan To Lecomte

Amid all the buzz of Louisiana-bred greats Sunbean and String King running — and ultimately falling short — in their respective Louisiana Champions Day races, the real story by day's end was arguably that of Dallas Stewart's Saint's Fan, who was an impressive victor in the $100,000 Louisiana Champions Day Juvenile.

http://www.paulickreport.com/news/thoro ... n-lecomte/
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Thu Dec 15, 2016 12:35 pm

Churchill Downs unveils Cantrell’s official art for the 2017 Kentucky Derby and Kentucky Oaks

Churchill Downs on Wednesday released the 2017 “Official Art of the Kentucky Derby” by award-winning American and Kentucky painter Jim Cantrell.

Cantrell is the first Kentucky artist to create the Derby’s officially licensed artwork since the tradition began in 1997. For this year’s artwork, Cantrell created watercolor paintings that capture the excitement and color of the 143rd running of each the Kentucky Derby and Kentucky Oaks.


http://www.brisnet.com/content/2016/12/ ... ucky-oaks/
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Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:25 am

Valadorna 'Getting Close' to Seasonal Bow

The quarantine situation at Fair Grounds Race Course & Slots has already caused several disruptions among horsemen. Trainer Mark Casse is knocking wood that, so far, 14 Hands Winery Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies (G1) runner-up Valadorna remains among the unaffected.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... asonal-bow
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Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:56 am

Derby Dozen - January 24, 2017 - Presented by Shadwell Farm

Steve Haskin's Derby Dozen.

http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/kentucky ... -farm.aspx
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Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:50 pm

Sherman said Klimt was going through a growth spurt and was not going to be aimed at the Kentucky Derby.

“He’s at my barn, but he’s being freshened for two months,” Sherman said. “I’m hoping to have a big second half of the year with him.”
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:29 am

PJMIII wrote:Derby Dozen - January 24, 2017 - Presented by Shadwell Farm

Steve Haskin's Derby Dozen.

http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/kentucky ... -farm.aspx
Does "Matt Converse" have a Derby list this year? If so, I haven't seen it...
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Sun Feb 05, 2017 6:47 pm

El Areeb likely to skip Gotham in favor of Wood

Unless El Areeb indicates he can’t wait, trainer Cal Lynch would like to skip the Grade 3, $300,000 Gotham Stakes on March 4 and point his 3-year-old colt to the Grade 2 Wood Memorial at Aqueduct on April 8.

http://www.drf.com/news/el-areeb-likely ... favor-wood
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Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:24 am

Watchmaker: Classic Empire's dud muddies Kentucky Derby road

You might think that since all three of Saturday’s Kentucky Derby point prep races were won in decisive fashion, the Derby picture right now on Sunday morning is at least just a tiny bit clearer. But that is anything but the case.

http://www.drf.com/news/watchmaker-clas ... derby-road
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Derby Dozen - February 7, 2017 - Presented by Shadwell Farm

Steve Haskin's Derby Dozen

http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/kentucky ... -farm.aspx
peeptoad
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Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:11 pm

CA Derby winner So Conflated will scratch from the Risen Star tomorrow and instead go to the Gotham...
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Sun Feb 26, 2017 4:07 pm

peeptoad wrote:CA Derby winner So Conflated will scratch from the Risen Star tomorrow and instead go to the Gotham...
That was one I was really looking forward to seeing......I'm a sucker for those stretch runners.

Who else do you think might go in that one?
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Sun Feb 26, 2017 4:34 pm

El Areeb is going in the Gotham and he looks very sharp.
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... ng-workout
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Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:38 am

Conquest Mo Money Still Undefeated, Sunland Derby Next

New Mexico's hopes for the Kentucky Derby Presented by Yum! Brands (G1)—for now, at least—appear to run through Judge Lanier Racing's Conquest Mo Money.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... derby-next
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Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:14 pm

Always Dreaming - remember that name. Going off at 1-to-9, he just won an Allowance contest going 9F at GP - final time was slow but he was never asked, basically just a jog until the last 20 yards or so when JV asked him and he responded immediately, drawing off. By Bodemeister, look for him to appear next in a major Derby prep as Pletcher confirmed after the race.
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Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:11 pm

Looks like B2 has really been building stamina into Mastery... I like what Haskin said recently on ATR - that basically B2 works horses the old-fashioned way, and if they can stand-up to it you know that they are going to be ready to go 10F on the first Saturday in May:

3/5 (today) - 6F Mastery (KY) Bob Baffert C 3 1:12.60 h 1/12
2/27 - 6F
2/21 - 6F (slower work - 1:15)
2/13 - 7F

Looking forward to his 3yo debut against some pretty stiff competition next Saturday in the San Felipe.
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Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:56 pm

Looks like B2 has really been building stamina into Mastery... I like what Haskin said recently on ATR - that basically B2 works horses the old-fashioned way, and if they can stand-up to it you know that they are going to be ready to go 10F on the first Saturday in May:
Just wanted to expand a bit in regard to training for the KD and TC events as I believe it's VERY important! Sure, you need to have a talented horse that has the pedigree, but I don't believe the importance of conditioning for these specific races can be overemphasized. Imo, there's a reason Baffert has done so well, yet TP has run ~45 horses in the Derby but has only 1 victory. In short, his training style of basic/tepid 4f and 5f works coupled with a tighter Derby prep schedule/less rest just isn't conducive to winning on the first Saturday in May. Perhaps he will prove otherwise this year, but I find it difficult to put any of his charges at the top of the list.
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Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:04 am

J Boys Echo is possible for the Florida Derby...looks like the Blue Grass is still the first choice for final prep, but Romans keeping options open
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Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:14 pm

tcw: Always Dreaming - remember that name. Going off at 1-to-9, he just won an Allowance contest going 9F at GP - final time was slow but he was never asked, basically just a jog until the last 20 yards or so when JV asked him and he responded immediately, drawing off. By Bodemeister, look for him to appear next in a major Derby prep as Pletcher confirmed after the race.

Looks like you aren't the only one who was impressed by the colt. ;) :D

West Point, Siena Farm Buy Into Kentucky Derby Hopeful Always Dreaming
Siena Farm and West Point Thoroughbreds have purchased a minority interest in promising 3-year-old colt Always Dreaming, St. Elias Stable's Vinnie Viola confirmed March 20.
Trained by Todd Pletcher and owned by MeB Racing Stables LLC, Brooklyn Boyz Stables, Viola Racing Stables, and St. Elias Stables LLC, the son of Bodemeister is under consideration for the $1,000,000 Xpressbet.com Florida Derby (G1) on April 1 following a win in an allowance race on March 4 at Gulfstream.

Read more: http://www.paulickreport.com/news/tripl ... -dreaming/
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