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Re: Arrogate

PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:27 pm
by Squeaky
Thanks Mariasmon!

Re: Arrogate

PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:10 pm
by Squeaky
If anyone has a video or photo of him in his paddock would love to see it! Thanks

Re: Arrogate

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:17 am
by mariasmon
Squeaky wrote:If anyone has a video or photo of him in his paddock would love to see it! Thanks


https://twitter.com/Arrogatethegr8/stat ... 6007516160

Re: Arrogate

PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:02 pm
by Sparrow Castle
Jon White‏ @PostTimeJon
Now that Arrogate's racing career is over, I have decided where to put him on my updated list of the Top 100 Racehorses of the 20th and 21st Centuries to have raced in North America:

My Updated Top 100 Racehorses of All Time
...By putting Arrogate at No. 22, it does accord him the respect that I think he deserves in relation to the horses on the list to have raced since Spectacular Bid. Yes, American Pharoah, also trained by Baffert, is one of the horses on the list to have raced since Spectacular Bid. I do not think Arrogate should be ranked higher than American Pharoah. In addition to becoming the first Triple Crown winner in an excruciatingly long 37 years, American Pharoah concluded his racing career with an emphatic 6 1/2-length victory in the BC Classic of 2015. But I do rank Arrogate higher than all others to have raced since Spectacular Bid...

More: https://www.xpressbet.com/component/content/article/11-xb360/xb-blog/1429-my-updated-top-100

Re: Arrogate

PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:17 pm
by stark
"I wont retire until that baby runs!!!" - Mike Smith on the future mating of Arrogate and Songbird

Re: Arrogate

PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:44 pm
by sweettalk
https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/23/sport/ar ... index.html

thoughts? not sure i can agree with it (unpopular opinion, sorry)

Re: Arrogate

PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:49 pm
by Treve
sweettalk wrote:https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/23/sport/arrogate-longines-worlds-best-racehorse/index.html

thoughts? not sure i can agree with it (unpopular opinion, sorry)


If I'm not mistaken Longines uses a similar system to Timeform: ie the horse's ranking is based on their single best performance rather than their overall record. I do not know exactly how they rate the individual performances though.

Re: Arrogate

PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:32 pm
by sweettalk
oh... that's a really, uhm, awkward? system.

Re: Arrogate

PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:58 pm
by BaroqueAgain1
Why 'awkward?' It's different, sure, but it may be simpler.
Basing the award on a horse's single most outstanding performance through the year escapes the problem of weighing resumes that may seem similar. One doesn't have to decide whether a 2 G1, 1 G3 record is better than a 1 G1, 2 G2, 1 G3 record. Or whether a G1 at Ascot outweighs a G1 at Meydan or Longchamp or Santa Anita.
Arrogate's victory in the World Cup was pretty amazing, and we should feel flattered that the mainly (I think) European panel picked it over Cracksman's Champion Stakes, Enable's Arc or Winx's Cox Plate.

Re: Arrogate

PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:33 pm
by stark
On a related note, one writers vote for the NTRA moment of the year.
http://www.horseraceinsider.com/Ante-Po ... o-contest/