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Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:36 pm

In Arrogate’s First Work Since Pacific Classic, Baffert Seeks ‘Input’ From Rider Bejarano
Still the highest-rated racehorse of 2017 by Longines, Juddmonte Farm's Arrogate worked on Monday for the first time since the Aug. 19 Pacific Classic, reports bloodhorse.com. The 4-year-old son of Unbridled Song breezed a half mile by himself over the Santa Anita strip in :48 3/5, ridden by Rafael Bejarano.
Jockey Martin Garcia is Arrogate's usual work rider, but trainer Bob Baffert gave the leg up to Bejarano to get a different read on how the colt was feeling.

Read more: https://www.paulickreport.com/news/bree ... -bejarano/

I still think it's the Del Mar surface he hates so much that he under-performs. If the BC were going to be held at Santa Anita, I would bet the proverbial mortgage on the big grey.
But since it's being held at Del Mar, I'm just hoping that the track surface will settle by BC time and actually be more like the Arcadia track's dirt.
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Tue Sep 26, 2017 6:03 pm

Arrogate (4-Year-Old Colt)
Date: September 26, 2017
Track: SANTA ANITA PARK
Distance: Five Furlongs
Time: 59:40 Handily
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 1/44

Arrogate Looks Like Old Self in Bullet Work
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... ullet-work
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Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:40 pm

There's nothing wrong with a 48'n change work, but when your workmate is Arrogate and he comes flying by it looks like a total mismatch....

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/912762099729707008
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Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:30 pm

I know piling on Arrogate is sort of a national sport right now, but I'm pretty confused by all of those critical reviews on Twitter. Thought that work was far better than anything we've seen from him lately.
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Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:45 am

The workout was at Santa Anita; I expect him to work well over the Arcadia track. After his BC win, I'd say he's shown that he likes that track. :P
I just don't assume that he's going to work or run over the Del Mar surface with the same comfort and confidence. When he goes back to the seaside track, that's when I want to see a good work.
And I still wouldn't bet my mythical mortgage on him, until after he wins. ;) :lol:
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Tue Oct 03, 2017 6:55 pm

Arrogate (4-Year-Old Colt)
Date: October 3, 2017
Track: SANTA ANITA PARK
Distance: Four Furlongs
Time: 50:00 Handily
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 21/29

http://www.xbtv.com/video/workout/arrog ... -3rd-2017/

Arrogate Puts in Easy Half-Mile at Santa Anita Park
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... anita-park
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Sun Oct 08, 2017 9:04 pm

Enable Third in Longines Racehorse Rankings, Arrogate Remains on Top
As a result of her dominant performance in the Qatar Prix de l’Arc de Triomphe, Enable (128 rating) has moved into the third spot in the LONGINES World’s Best Racehorse Rankings for 2017. Dubai World Cup winner Arrogate remains in the No. 1 position with a 134 rating, with Australian mare Winx in second at 132.
https://www.americasbestracing.net/the- ... emains-top
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Sun Oct 08, 2017 9:27 pm

I guess Arro's dominating wins in the Pegasus and World Cup early in the year are going to keep him on top of the Longines rankings for 2017, despite what he's done since. :roll:
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BaroqueAgain1 wrote:I guess Arro's dominating wins in the Pegasus and World Cup early in the year are going to keep him on top of the Longines rankings for 2017, despite what he's done since. :roll:
I'm not sure a "what have you done for me lately" attitude" is something to be proud of. Unless you are duly impressed with the quality of horse Gun Runner has beaten in the Woodward.
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I'm not rolling my eyes for Gun Runner; I'm casting my for-what-it's-worth vote for Enable or Winx. :P :lol:
Longines can abide by whatever rules they've established, but the performances that both E and W have put in this fall have been really impressive...IMHO.
Gun Runner? :shock: You thought I was rooting for the Asmussen runner to climb to the top of the list? Uh...no.
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Timeform has him even higher up the list (then again they calculate how the horse performs on it's best day). https://www.timeform.com/horse-racing/f ... gs-2932017

I do believe that the rankings are pretty much reasonable (well as much as you can compare turf/dirt runners anyway). If you pair those 2 up and both in top form, I'd rank Arrogate higher. Overall accomplishments Winx of course has done more.
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Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:39 pm

Arrogate (4-Year-Old Colt)
Date: October 10, 2017
Track: SANTA ANITA PARK
Distance: Five Furlongs
Time: 1.00:20 Handily
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 1/40

http://www.xbtv.com/video/workout/arrog ... 10th-2017/
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Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:41 pm

Claire Novak-Crosby‏ @BH_CNovak
Arrogate will retire to @JuddmonteFarms in Lexington after his @BreedersCup Classic run, per release. Story soon @bloodhorse.
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Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:18 pm

Sparrow Castle wrote:Claire Novak-Crosby‏ @BH_CNovak
Arrogate will retire to @JuddmonteFarms in Lexington after his @BreedersCup Classic run, per release. Story soon @bloodhorse.
I mean, that has always been the plan hasn't it?
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Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:23 pm

Treve wrote:
Sparrow Castle wrote:Claire Novak-Crosby‏ @BH_CNovak
Arrogate will retire to @JuddmonteFarms in Lexington after his @BreedersCup Classic run, per release. Story soon @bloodhorse.
I mean, that has always been the plan hasn't it?
That was my reaction too.

The Bloodhorse article reads: "That's the greatest horse I've ever seen run," Baffert said of Arrogate.

But I still think American Pharoah was better. Oh well; Baffert would be the one to know.
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Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:23 pm

I'm sure it's always been the plan, but it probably doesn't hurt to state it a few weeks before the race, in case things don't... go to plan in the Classic.


With Enable and Arrogate, what are the odds of Juddmonte finishing in the black in 2017? :lol:
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Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:18 pm

I could be wrong because I don't remember the wording of the previous announcement. I think the point of this one is that Arrogate is going to stand at Juddmonte KY rather than elsewhere with Juddmont retaining interest, such as at Lanes End (Noble Mission) or Hill ‘n’ Dale (Flintshire). Currently I think they stand only Mizzen Mast. Yep, looked it up:
https://www.juddmonte.com/#us
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Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:36 pm

Starine wrote:
Treve wrote:
Sparrow Castle wrote:Claire Novak-Crosby‏ @BH_CNovak
Arrogate will retire to @JuddmonteFarms in Lexington after his @BreedersCup Classic run, per release. Story soon @bloodhorse.
I mean, that has always been the plan hasn't it?
That was my reaction too.

The Bloodhorse article reads: "That's the greatest horse I've ever seen run," Baffert said of Arrogate.

But I still think American Pharoah was better. Oh well; Baffert would be the one to know.
I agree with you. Arrogate was an impressive horse to watch run at his best. He was stupefying and subjugating and one runs out of superlatives in describing his peformance. But Pharoah was poetry in motion in all but the Travers, and I sincerely think he could've matured into an even better horse. Not to mention the whole, winning the Triple Crown thing.
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Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

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Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:53 am

Starine wrote: That was my reaction too.

The Bloodhorse article reads: "That's the greatest horse I've ever seen run," Baffert said of Arrogate.

But I still think American Pharoah was better. Oh well; Baffert would be the one to know.
Personally, I think of Arrogate as a Ghostzapper type of horse.
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