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Re: Arrogate

Postby Miss Woodford » Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:15 pm

Tessablue wrote:They'll probably give him 126, same as Chrome last year, and adjust everyone else slightly downwards. Carrying weight is largely pointless and probably dangerous anyways, may as well keep everyone as happy as possible.

When has weight ever been implicated in a racehorse injury? Arrogate is a big strong horse, he can more than handle >130lbs.
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Re: Arrogate

Postby Tessablue » Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:13 am

Miss Woodford wrote:
Tessablue wrote:They'll probably give him 126, same as Chrome last year, and adjust everyone else slightly downwards. Carrying weight is largely pointless and probably dangerous anyways, may as well keep everyone as happy as possible.

When has weight ever been implicated in a racehorse injury? Arrogate is a big strong horse, he can more than handle >130lbs.

It has here- http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1090023303001412. The study is about hunt horses and others around the world have been less conclusive about weight carried, but I'm not certain that there are enough high-weight data to truly gauge the effects on dirt (plus those big observational studies are super difficult to design and analyze). This study also torpedoes the romantic image of the drug-free European racehorse... but I digress.

I honestly don't have much interest or put much stock in weights, and I think the length per pound (or whatever it is) rule is completely preposterous at the standard weight range, but I'd also rather not see good horses endangered out of a need to give a race slightly more intrigue. While I get the appeal of seeing this horse check off more boxes, a decent, respectful weight spread and a race against the clock works for me. Hopefully they are able to find a middleground that keeps everyone relatively happy.
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Re: Arrogate

Postby stark » Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:19 am

I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Re: Arrogate

Postby Point Given » Sun Jun 18, 2017 12:24 pm

Arrogate (4-Year-Old Colt
Date: June 18, 2017
Track: SANTA ANITA PARK
Distance: Four Furlongs
Time: 46:80 Handily
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 1/63
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Re: Arrogate

Postby Tessablue » Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:31 pm

Here's a brief video of the end of the work... you'd be forgiven for thinking it's the gallop-out. https://twitter.com/camillayakteen/status/876454578459246592
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Re: Arrogate

Postby Kay16 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:31 pm

I can't wait to see what he does the rest of this year
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Re: Arrogate

Postby bare it all » Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:00 am

JFC this horse is just... not even sure -what- he is. :shock:
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Re: Arrogate

Postby Diver52 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:25 am

I really hope he runs in the San Diego because I made arrangements months ago for a weekend at Del Mar. Arrogate would be quite the bonus!
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Re: Arrogate

Postby stark » Sun Jun 25, 2017 11:10 am

I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Re: Arrogate

Postby BaroqueAgain1 » Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:32 pm

This horse is so frelling ready to run right now that I wonder if Baffert is going to be able to keep him on the ground for the next four weeks. :lol:
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