2016 Preakness Stakes

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stark
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Sun May 08, 2016 12:21 pm

Uncle Lino, another UncleMo, first of the new shooters to book his flight to Baltimore.

Others expected include:
Baffert's Collected?
Pletcher's _________?
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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dustino140
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Sun May 08, 2016 12:29 pm

Pletcher is supposedly running Stradivari.
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Sun May 08, 2016 12:31 pm

Laoban, Cherry Wine, Awesome Speed, and Exaggerator are also probable.
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Sun May 08, 2016 12:39 pm

Reading that Lani is heading to New York with possible eyes to Baltimore
Spahny
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Sun May 08, 2016 1:04 pm

Stradivari has had 2 races, correct? The Preakness would be his stakes debut?
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Sun May 08, 2016 1:06 pm

Spahny wrote:Stradivari has had 2 races, correct? The Preakness would be his stakes debut?
3 races and yes, stakes debut. He'd need to be nearly invincible to win a Triple Crown race with his resume.
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Sun May 08, 2016 1:09 pm

dustino140 wrote:
Spahny wrote:Stradivari has had 2 races, correct? The Preakness would be his stakes debut?
3 races and yes, stakes debut. He'd need to be nearly invincible to win a Triple Crown race with his resume.
Talent is a good thing. But I am reminded of the story of that high school hoops phenom that thought he could talk trash to Jordan at a training camp. Whatever happened to him?
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Sun May 08, 2016 1:13 pm

Stradivari is the classic "huge wins, could be anything" Pletcher horse that we were missing from the Derby this year. He's also the horse who completely outworked Destin a week ago. Ran a 100 last out so he fits on figures, but he's up against it from a lot of angles.
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Sun May 08, 2016 1:13 pm

Spahny wrote:
dustino140 wrote:
Spahny wrote:Stradivari has had 2 races, correct? The Preakness would be his stakes debut?
3 races and yes, stakes debut. He'd need to be nearly invincible to win a Triple Crown race with his resume.
Talent is a good thing. But I am reminded of the story of that high school hoops phenom that thought he could talk trash to Jordan at a training camp. Whatever happened to him?
In fairness, I don't think Team Stradivari (or his connections) are trash talking anyone.
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Sun May 08, 2016 1:41 pm

the trainer for Uncle Lino, Gary Sherlock, was on the radio this morning for a local SoCal TB station and had some interesting comments - he is running his horse in the Preakness - but said he doesn't see anyone beating Nyquist.

Sherlock said he would be fine running for second in the Preakness with Uncle Lino - and if nyquist wins that race, he thinks he goes on to win the TC. he was full of compliments for nyquist.

I know Exaggerator ran great yesterday - and I know Kent D mentioned he felt they could have won if EX had not gotten stopped - he is looking forward to trying Nyquist at pimlico - but I just don't see them beating the derby winner - he might get closer, but Nyquist will still want to fight it out all the way to the wire - I don't see him letting any horse get past him if he gets in a dogfight to the finish.
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Sun May 08, 2016 1:48 pm

Union Rags wrote:Stradivari looks like the winner.
Maybe we should draw the entries first?
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Sun May 08, 2016 2:06 pm

It surprises me that the connections of Exaggerator are running him back in the Preakness. I don't think he can beat Nyquist and his best shot would be coming into the Belmont as a fresh horse. After yesterdays race, I thought Exaggerator could be the possible spoiler of the TC. Not any longer.
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Sun May 08, 2016 2:11 pm

Union Rags wrote: No need. Nobody from Derby is beating him and only new shooter that is fast enough is Stradivari. Nyquist runs his A race he wins. So far he only has run his A race. The two weeks could get him, but probably not. He is on level with AP, maybe better because he rates better. No Keen Ice could ever beat Nyquist.
Imho, the only thing that beat AP at Saratoga was the workout he did the day before the race. A mile and a half going too fast. The moment he concluded his workout I thought he could get beat.
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Sun May 08, 2016 5:56 pm

I see Stradivari & Unified listed as probables for the Peter Pan.
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Sun May 08, 2016 6:09 pm

I always skip the preakness, sometimes I just make a $2 win bet on one horse for souvenir.

I love the Belmont Stakes and wondering who will be in that one. There are some horses I really like for this, like Economic Model, if he runs. I have no idea who will be running in this.
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Sun May 08, 2016 6:14 pm

I don't think it would be in Unified's best interest to go his first route in the Preakness in his 3rd start.
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Sun May 08, 2016 6:30 pm

dustino140 wrote:Pletcher is supposedly running Stradivari.
I'm a huge fan of this colt!
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Sun May 08, 2016 6:40 pm

Stradivari and Unified are very nice colts. It just seems to me that the Peter Pan would be a better next progression for them.

Fine with me if they are in the Preakness. I'd like it to be as interesting a race as possible. It's not good when the 2nd leg comes up light.
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Sun May 08, 2016 6:52 pm

Spahny wrote:Stradivari and Unified are very nice colts. It just seems to me that the Peter Pan would be a better next progression for them.

Fine with me if they are in the Preakness. I'd like it to be as interesting a race as possible. It's not good when the 2nd leg comes up light.
I tend to agree. The Big Brown Preakness was so disappointing at the time (a few of those horses eventually turned out to be good ones, but not that day). That said, I would go Preakness with Stradivari. Unified may do better with the one-turn Peter Pan (since he's never routed before), but with Coolmore/Pletcher, you know they're going to be gunning for a win/place in a G1 Classic. He did very well going a two-turn 9f at Keeneland, so while he may or may not be the 'better' horse, he's probably 'readier' for the Preakness.

It's a mildly intriguing race, though. Nyquist showed no chinks in his armor at Churchill and, if anything, he looks as much a Preakness horse as Smarty Jones, Big Brown, American Pharoah, et al. He should blow this field away. I would like to see the quality closers (Exaggerator, Creator) take him on there instead of in the Belmont. Both would conceivably benefit from the smaller field and a fast pace. The Belmont generally doesn't have a quick pace and I don't envision either factoring as well against the quality speed types there. Not saying either will win the Preakness, but I think it gives them a better shot.
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Sun May 08, 2016 7:25 pm

There's been a suggestion somewhere that Unified might try the Preakness?
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