Breeders' Cup Early Impressions

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Kennedy
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Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:57 pm

So we've seen the vast majority of all the BC preps. The European challenge has yet to fully solidify but most of the home team have showed their hand. I know the follies of making up your mind before the race is even drawn but there is something rather fun about making picks a ways out from the actual race.

I thought it would be fun to post our selections for each BC race. One pick for each race. These aren't necessarily the horses you will pick they are just the ones you would pick at the moment based on your impressions.

Classic - Game On Dude
Turf - Indy Point
Mile - Wise Dan
Sprint - Points Offthebench
Juvenile - Havana
Dirt Mile - Graydar
Turf Sprint - Unbridled's Note
Juvenile Turf - Bobby's Kitten
Distaff - Royal Delta
FM Turf - Dayatthespa
FM Sprint - Book Review
Juvenile Fillies - Sweet Reason
Juvenile Fillies Turf - My Conquestadory
Marathon - Ever Rider
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Ballerina
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Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:00 pm

http://www.breederscup.com/contenders/119

if you need a list to make your choices
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Barbaro06
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Mon Oct 07, 2013 7:52 pm

Classic - Palace Malice
Turf - Point of Entry
Mile - Wise Dan
Sprint - Fast Bullet
Juvenile - Honor Code
Dirt Mile - Verrazano
Turf Sprint - Mizdirection
Juvenile Turf - Bashart
Distaff - Princess of Sylmar
FM Turf - Laughing
FM Sprint - Sweet Lulu
Juvenile Fillies - My Conquestadory
Juvenile Fillies Turf - Testa Rossi
Marathon - Sky Kingdom

I doubt 1/4 of these will actually win. Probably half won't even run, but it is still fun to try to pick this far out :)
Senator L
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Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:55 pm

Classic - Graydar
Turf - Little Mike
Mile - No Jet Lag
Sprint - Sum of the Parts
Juvenile - Havana
Dirt Mile - Pants on Fire
Turf Sprint - Unbridled's Note
Juvenile Turf - Go Bro
Distaff - Royal Delta
FM Turf - Dank
FM Sprint - Dance Card
Juvenile Fillies - She's a Tiger
Juvenile Fillies Turf - Tapestry
Marathon - Suns Out Guns Out

Do they have a pick 14 yet? :D
No one has ever bet enough on a winning horse.
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Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:02 pm

I like this idea! Never too early to start thinking about it.

Classic - Mucho Macho Man
Turf - The Fugue
Mile - Silver Max
Sprint - Private Zone
Juvenile - Havana
Dirt Mile - Graydar
Turf Sprint - Mizdirection
Juvenile Turf - Bashart
Distaff - Beholder
FM Turf - Dank
FM Sprint - Book Review
Juvenile Fillies - Sweet Reason
Juvenile Fillies Turf - I have absolutely no idea
Marathon- Sky Kingdom
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Northport
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Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:09 pm

Classic: Declaration of War
Turf: The Fugue
Mile: Wise Dan
Sprint: Private Zone
Juvenile: Havana
Dirt Mile: Verrazano
Turf Sprint: Lethal Force
Juvenile Turf: Whatever Aiden O'Brien sends
Distaff: Princess of Sylmar
FM Turf: Better Lucky
FM Sprint: Judy the Beauty
Juvenile Fillies: My Conquestadory
Juvenile Fillies Turf: Tapestry
Marathon: does it matter??
weeeeeeeee
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Oldowan
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Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:00 pm

Classic--Game On Dude (finally)
Dirt Mile--Verrazano
Distaff--Beholder
F/M Sprint--Sweet Lulu
F/M Turf--Laughing
Juvie--Havana
F Juvie--Untapable
F Juvie Turf--??
Juvie Turf--Bashart
Marathon--Atigun
Mile--Wise Dan
Turf--Little Mike
Turf Sprint--Unbridled's Note
Sprint--Justin Phillip

Some of these are sentimental. That's how I roll.
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Ballerina
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Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:12 am

Classic - Game On Dude
Dirt Mile - Moreno
Distaff - Princess of Sylmar
Filly & Mare Sprint - Dance to Bristol
Filly & Mare Turf - Emollient
Juvenile - Corfu
Juvenile Filly - She's A Tiger
Juvenile Filly Turf - Testa Rossi
Juvienile Turf - Bobby's Kitten
Marathon - Ever Ready (it matters to me :) )
Mile - WISE DAN
Turf - The Fugue
Turf Sprint - Capo Bastone
Sprint - Justin Phillip
peeptoad
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Classic - Game On Dude
Turf - The Fugue
Mile - Wise Dan (liking He Be Fire n Ice as a longshot though, if he goes)
Sprint - Private Zone
Juvenile - Havana
Dirt Mile - Graydar
Distaff - Princess of Sylmar
FM Turf - Dank
FM Sprint - Book Review
Juvenile Fillies - Sweet Reason
Juvenile Fillies Turf - My Conquestadory
Marathon- Blueskiesnrainbows

...don't really have a strong opinion on some of these and the races not listed I currently have no real opinion on at all.
blamethewinner
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Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:54 am

Classic - Mucho Macho Man
Turf - Grandeur
Mile - Wise Dan
Sprint - Private Zone
Juvenile - Havana
Dirt Mile - Goldencents
Turf Sprint - Boat Trip
Juvenile Turf - Bobby's Kitten
Distaff - Princess of Sylmar
FM Turf - Dank
FM Sprint - Dance to Bristol
Juvenile Fillies - Sweet Reason
Juvenile Fillies Turf - Granny Mc'sKitten
Marathon - Last Gunfighter
Rick1323
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Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:25 pm

One or 2 winners over 2 days can be very profitable. But they are difficult cards to handicap even on race day.
Everyone come home sound.....
The Tin Man
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Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:19 pm

peeptoad wrote:Mile - Wise Dan (liking He Be Fire n Ice as a longshot though, if he goes)
This guy ... He Be Fire N Ice is at his very best right now. Definitely a rising star.

And for those who haven't seen him ... He's absolutely gorgeous!
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peeptoad
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The Tin Man wrote:
peeptoad wrote:Mile - Wise Dan (liking He Be Fire n Ice as a longshot though, if he goes)
This guy ... He Be Fire N Ice is at his very best right now. Definitely a rising star.
He is in good form right now... he would need his very best (or perhaps a new top) just to hit the board in the Mile, but I do like him if he runs. I think he needs to be supplemented, so he may not go.
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dustino140
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Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:13 pm

I don't relish stuff like this but here are my most vulnerable, best bet and best value for each of the races (amongst possible entries). Best value/Most vulnerable are based on DRF (Watchmaker,




Classic
Best Bet: Mucho Macho Man
Best Value: Will Take Charge
Most Vulnerable: Graydar, Paynter

Mile
Best Bet: Wise Dan
Best Value: Silver Max
Most Vulnerable: Tornado

Sprint
Best Bet: Justin Phillip
Best Value: Forty Tales
Most Vulnerable: Private Zone

Turf
Best Bet: Camelot
Best Value: Indy Point
Most Vulnerable: Real Solution

Juvenile
Best Bet: Havana
Best Value: New Year's Day
Most Vulnerable: Strong Mandate

Turf Sprint
Best Bet: Mizdirection
Best Value: Caracortado
Most Vulnerable: Havelock

Filly & Mare Sprint
Best Bet: Cluster of Stars
Best Value: Book Review
Most Vulnerable: Groupie Doll

Filly & Mare Turf
Best Bet: Dank (The Fugue)
Best Value: Romantica
Most Vulnerable: Better Lucky, Emollient, Laughing

Juvenile Fillies
Best Bet: Artemis Agrotera
Best Value: Stonetastic
Most Vulnerable: My Conquestadory

Distaff
Best Bet: Princess of Sylmar
Best Value: Authenticity
Most Vulnerable: Close Hatches

Juvenile Turf
Best Bet: Bobby's Kitten
Best Value: Shadow Banking
Most Vulnerable: Diamond Bachelor

Dirt Mile
Best Bet: Goldencents
Best Value: Brujo de Olleros
Most Vulnerable: Verrazano

Juvenile Fillies Turf
Best Bet: Kitten Kaboodle
Best Value: Sky Painter
Most Vulnerable: Clenor (Ire)

Marathon
Best Bet: Atigun
Best Value: Ever Rider
Most Vulnerable: Sky Kingdom
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