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Re: "Bubble" and "Watch" horse thread

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 8:29 pm
by peeptoad
Admin wrote:Some of you may want to watch a filly named Texas Gem. I didn't get a good look at them today on the track feed, but there was a lot of talk about her "hound dog" ears. Apparently she had normal ears but had surgery to remove some cysts in the ears and as a result, her ears are in permanent flop mode.
Here's a YT clip about her:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dlzLDCvDao

Re: "Bubble" and "Watch" horse thread

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 8:53 pm
by Admin
Thanks, Peep!

Re: "Bubble" and "Watch" horse thread

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 10:32 pm
by katmandu
A lop!

Re: "Bubble" and "Watch" horse thread

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:44 pm
by serenassong
So, I just noticed this- and it's concerning

Avanzare who is a multiple graded stakes winner- won over $500k- returns to the races after 1 3/4 years. I knew that he was working at Winstar and Keenland- and now shows up for a $16K tag. I realize that he is coming off a long layoff- but why not retire if he is truly having issues? Not sure what to make of this

http://www.equibase.com/profiles/Result ... y=T&rbt=TB

http://www.equibase.com/static/entry/FG ... html#RACE2

Re: "Bubble" and "Watch" horse thread

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:48 pm
by serenassong
Put this in the GR thread- but I think it needs to be put here as well for more to see

Please retire Small Giant, he is being run into the ground and I see a breakdown coming.
http://www.equibase.com/profiles/Result ... registry=T

Re: "Bubble" and "Watch" horse thread

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:27 pm
by Sparrow Castle
serenassong wrote:So, I just noticed this- and it's concerning

Avanzare who is a multiple graded stakes winner- won over $500k- returns to the races after 1 3/4 years. I knew that he was working at Winstar and Keenland- and now shows up for a $16K tag. I realize that he is coming off a long layoff- but why not retire if he is truly having issues? Not sure what to make of this

http://www.equibase.com/profiles/Result ... y=T&rbt=TB

http://www.equibase.com/static/entry/FG ... html#RACE2
Jeremy Balan Verified account@BH_JBalan
4m4 minutes ago
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Karl Broberg claimed Avanzare and he was the only one to put in a slip. Broberg said he only put claim in because he knew Tom Proctor wouldn't run an unsound horse.

“Normally those are sucker horses. He’d been off 22 months & I’m normally I’m the one making fun of those people."

Jeremy Balan‏Verified account @BH_JBalan
Avanzare, the 7-year-old gelding, wins for fun in the 5 1/2-furlong turf sprint, which was never his distance. We'll see if he got claimed.

Re: "Bubble" and "Watch" horse thread

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 6:47 pm
by serenassong
Sparrow Castle wrote:
serenassong wrote:So, I just noticed this- and it's concerning

Avanzare who is a multiple graded stakes winner- won over $500k- returns to the races after 1 3/4 years. I knew that he was working at Winstar and Keenland- and now shows up for a $16K tag. I realize that he is coming off a long layoff- but why not retire if he is truly having issues? Not sure what to make of this

http://www.equibase.com/profiles/Result ... y=T&rbt=TB

http://www.equibase.com/static/entry/FG ... html#RACE2
Jeremy Balan Verified account@BH_JBalan
4m4 minutes ago
More Jeremy Balan Retweeted Jeremy Balan
Karl Broberg claimed Avanzare and he was the only one to put in a slip. Broberg said he only put claim in because he knew Tom Proctor wouldn't run an unsound horse.

“Normally those are sucker horses. He’d been off 22 months & I’m normally I’m the one making fun of those people."

Jeremy Balan‏Verified account @BH_JBalan
Avanzare, the 7-year-old gelding, wins for fun in the 5 1/2-furlong turf sprint, which was never his distance. We'll see if he got claimed.

I hope he does well in his new home

Re: "Bubble" and "Watch" horse thread

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 6:50 pm
by Sparrow Castle
Jeremy wrote a story about this.

Avanzare Wins in Return, Claimed by Broberg
...There was the drop to the claiming ranks—and a low level, on top of that—but Avanzare was also returning to racing off a 22-month layoff, since his last start in the Canadian Turf Stakes (G3T) at Gulfstream Park in February of 2016. Adding to the claiming game of poker was that Avanzare was set to go in an about 5 1/2-furlong turf sprint. In his 16 previous starts, he never ran in a race shorter than a mile.

"Normally those are the sucker horses," Broberg said. "He'd been off 22 months, and I'm normally I'm the one making fun of those people (who claim horses like that)."

But in the back of his mind, Broberg had a feeling Avanzare still had some run in him, and he was confident trainer Tom Proctor would not run an unsound horse at any level.

"When you look at the connections involved—Proctor is not going to run one that's just gone bad, and I know what the horse has previously done," Broberg said. "I just knew Proctor wouldn't run one with only one race left in him."

With all those elements of doubt working against him, Avanzare showed his quality in the second race of the day, closed from seventh in the field of nine, and surged to the wire under jockey Adam Beschizza to win by four lengths. Avanzare finished off the about 5 1/2 furlongs on good turf in 1:03.55.

And sure enough, Broberg was the only trainer who put a claim in. Avanzare is his, but he's still concerned he'll find something physically off in the gelding when he's examined Dec. 29.

"Let's be honest. He beat nothing. My excitement is very cautioned, because I'm expecting to see something horrible in the morning," Broberg said. "With a layoff like that, I'm expecting a tendon, but that's just speculating. We've brought horses back like that and odds are they bow again."

Broberg, who also owns Avanzare under the name of End Zone Athletics, said he doesn't expect the gelding to return to his previous graded stakes level, but that doesn't mean he can't target any number of minor stakes in the Southwest or other parts of the country, or remain successful in the claiming ranks. The Imposter, who rallied to finish second Thursday, obviously isn't of the class of grade 1 winner Talco (who Avanzare defeated in the Del Mar Mile) or multiple graded winner Za Approval (who he beat in the Arcadia), but Avanzare surely didn't look like he lacked an interest in racing when he kicked away from his rivals on the Fair Grounds grass.
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... by-broberg

Re: "Bubble" and "Watch" horse thread

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:58 am
by serenassong
Saw that, and it is all over the place. Im glad they saw concern in what I spotted as well.
Many eyes on the boy now :D

Re: "Bubble" and "Watch" horse thread

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:08 am
by Sparrow Castle
Candice Hare @CandiceHare_
1h1 hour ago
Believe me, I understand horse racing is fundamentally just as much a business as it is a sport & I've never been one to suggest retirement to any connections, but if MGSW Silentio is ever entered in another race, then we as a community have failed him.

I agree wholeheartedly with this. He finished last at Turfway today, a race I watched because I follow another horse in the race. This is very concerning...

http://www.equibase.com/static/chart/pd ... 18USA7.pdf
http://www.equibase.com/profiles/Result ... registry=T

jake ballis @jakeballis
2h2 hours ago
Silentio should never be running. Shame on the connections. If we had a governing body this wouldn’t be allowed

Thoroughbred Info @ThorobredInfo 8h8 hours ago
The gorgeous SoCal MGSW #Silentio -- 3rd to Wise Dan in the 2013 @BreedersCup Mile -- has returned to racing after standing stud in TX in 2017. Ran last by 38 lengths today in $40K claimer at Turfway Park. Now a 9YO.
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Re: "Bubble" and "Watch" horse thread

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:15 am
by Diver52
WTF are they thinking?

Re: "Bubble" and "Watch" horse thread

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:28 am
by Northport
He raced in December, finishing 6 of 7. I know that the Wertheimers no longer own him, but they have more than enough resources to buy him back and send him to Old Friends or a retirement facility. Hopefully someone steps up, since his current connections don't look willing to.

Re: "Bubble" and "Watch" horse thread

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:19 pm
by Ziggypop
This is just sickening appalling.

Re: "Bubble" and "Watch" horse thread

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:57 pm
by Ridan_Remembered
A screaming example of why it is so hard to continue to support Thoroughbred racing for so many people. If I only had the money...instead there's only tears that stay inside because shedding them won't solve anything.

Re: "Bubble" and "Watch" horse thread

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:15 pm
by stark
Diver52 wrote:WTF are they thinking?
Has there been an interview with the connections, any clues as to the other side of the story?

Re: "Bubble" and "Watch" horse thread

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:30 pm
by sweettalk
Diver52 wrote:WTF are they thinking?
i'm gonna go with "they weren't thinking".

Re: "Bubble" and "Watch" horse thread

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:06 pm
by Sparrow Castle
Just_Dana @Luvtheponez
13h13 hours ago
Replying to @ThorobredInfo @BreedersCup
Owner/trainer @Acacia_Racing please do the right thing. Maybe @donnakeen might have some answers as to what happened with his stud career ending or know how to contact current/past connections since Silentio stood at Keen Farms.

Donna Keen @donnakeen
12m12 minutes ago
All but one mare that he bred was confirmed in foal. His stallion career ended due to non payment. Not one cent the whole time he was standing. I had to threaten to have a sheriff's sale to get paid and have him moved to another breeding farm.

Re: "Bubble" and "Watch" horse thread

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:16 pm
by Sparrow Castle
Kaitlin Free @kaitlinefree
11m11 minutes ago
sounds like Silentio will be retired again. future plans unsure but we better find out.

Re: "Bubble" and "Watch" horse thread

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:17 pm
by Northport
Sparrow Castle wrote:Just_Dana @Luvtheponez
13h13 hours ago
Replying to @ThorobredInfo @BreedersCup
Owner/trainer @Acacia_Racing please do the right thing. Maybe @donnakeen might have some answers as to what happened with his stud career ending or know how to contact current/past connections since Silentio stood at Keen Farms.

Donna Keen @donnakeen
12m12 minutes ago
All but one mare that he bred was confirmed in foal. His stallion career ended due to non payment. Not one cent the whole time he was standing. I had to threaten to have a sheriff's sale to get paid and have him moved to another breeding farm.
People who sent him mares weren't paying? Or Acacia Racing wasn't paying Keen Farms board/fees?

Re: "Bubble" and "Watch" horse thread

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:25 pm
by Miss Woodford
Northport wrote:
Sparrow Castle wrote:Just_Dana @Luvtheponez
13h13 hours ago
Replying to @ThorobredInfo @BreedersCup
Owner/trainer @Acacia_Racing please do the right thing. Maybe @donnakeen might have some answers as to what happened with his stud career ending or know how to contact current/past connections since Silentio stood at Keen Farms.

Donna Keen @donnakeen
12m12 minutes ago
All but one mare that he bred was confirmed in foal. His stallion career ended due to non payment. Not one cent the whole time he was standing. I had to threaten to have a sheriff's sale to get paid and have him moved to another breeding farm.
People who sent him mares weren't paying? Or Acacia Racing wasn't paying Keen Farms board/fees?
"have him moved to another breeding farm" implies Acacia wasn't paying their bills. Scumbags.