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Re: Siblings (and offspring) of well-known horses

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 5:32 pm
by stark
Curtis wrote:
ThreeMustangs wrote:Ziconic is entered in R2 at Santa Anita on New Year's Day, a 1 1/16-mile MSW on the dirt.
Earned another check. Finished third as the 5/2 favorite.
Michael Joyce‏
@TVGMike

There has never been a greater argument in favor of exchange wagering than Ziconic.

https://twitter.com/TVGMike/status/947935522927796224

Re: Siblings (and offspring) of well-known horses

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:15 pm
by Point Given
Ax Man (Misremembered - Shameful, by Flying Chevron) won his debut (MSW at Santa Anita) by 9 1/2 lengths.

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... -on-1-1-18

Re: Siblings (and offspring) of well-known horses

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:31 pm
by Starine
First foal out of Egg Drops nears debut
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... ears-debut

Re: Siblings (and offspring) of well-known horses

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:21 pm
by BaroqueAgain1
Ax Man was really impressive. IMO, he looks very little like Misremembered (which is fine with me :P ) and more like his female side of the family.

Re: Siblings (and offspring) of well-known horses

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:13 pm
by Diver52
I think that was the first of the restricted MSW's at Santa Anita, designed to give small barns a chance to run without facing monsters from the big barns. So who wins it? Baffert. (The restrictions are sale price $100,000 or less, or homebred.) Can't win for losing.

I always liked Misremembered and although he hasn't been much of a sire (possibly because he had a funkyish way of going IIRC) he had quite a bit of talent and has the right to sire a good one.

Re: Siblings (and offspring) of well-known horses

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:09 am
by stark
Diver52 wrote:I think that was the first of the restricted MSW's at Santa Anita, designed to give small barns a chance to run without facing monsters from the big barns. So who wins it? Baffert. (The restrictions are sale price $100,000 or less, or homebred.) Can't win for losing.

I always liked Misremembered and although he hasn't been much of a sire (possibly because he had a funkyish way of going IIRC) he had quite a bit of talent and has the right to sire a good one.
That really is funny, Ritvo created the anti-BB rule specifically so that homebreds and less expensive maidens wouldn't have to run against the multi-million dollar auction winners. Guessing a guy like Zito would love to see a similar condition on the east coast, probably call it the anti-TP rule ;)

Ohbytheway, AX MAN got a 96 BSF for his initial outing.

Re: Siblings (and offspring) of well-known horses

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:56 pm
by Diver52
Admittedly Ax Man met the spirit as well as the letter of the restriction--from a small breeder by an inexpensive stallion. At least BB didn't dip in with a Juddmontr homebred! :lol:

Re: Siblings (and offspring) of well-known horses

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:01 pm
by lurkey mclurker
G @LongBallToNoOne
8h 8 hours ago
G Retweeted Stay Dream

Gentildonna's full 3yo sister has passed her gate test and is progressing with training. One to look forward to in 2018
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I think she looks like a feminine version of her sire, definitely. Wish she had a name though! :mrgreen:

Re: Siblings (and offspring) of well-known horses

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:27 pm
by Ridan_Remembered
Gentildonna's full sister is very pretty. Very racy looking.

Re: Siblings (and offspring) of well-known horses

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:43 pm
by Sparrow Castle
Heard a rumor and it's looks like it's true.

AIDANOBRIENFANSITE‏ @aobrienfansite
8h8 hours ago
De Coronado has been sold and has been transferred to his new trainer Seamus Durack and is now owned by Miss Sam Beddoes he has entries at Kempton & Wolverhampton in the next week.

27Dec17 Changed Trainer notification: A P O'Brien to Seamus Durack
https://www.racingpost.com/profile/hors ... e-coronado

2013 H Street Cry (IRE) - Vertigineux, by Kris S. - full to Zenyatta.

Re: Siblings (and offspring) of well-known horses

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:43 pm
by BaroqueAgain1
IIRC, De Coronado has done better on the track than either of Zen's boys. I'm kind of surprised that Coolmore has sold him, as that pedigree is sure to attract some breeders, even if he never gets a Group win. And he's a handsome horse.
I wonder if this move shows their opinion that Vertigineux's legacy as a broodmare is not panning out, and they didn't see any place for him at Ballydoyle as a stud. :?

Re: Siblings (and offspring) of well-known horses

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:01 pm
by Northport
If they are willing to sell Henrythenavigator, Duke of Marmalade, Black Sam Bellamy, John F Kennedy, Gallante, etc., De Coronado never had a chance. Unless you're a star on the track and hit the ground running with your first 3 crops, no one is guaranteed a stall at Ballydoyle or Coolmore. If they don't want to keep a (second) son of Urban Sea, they probably didn't bat an eye selling a son of Vertigineux.

I wouldn't be surprised to see De Coronado standing somewhere as a National Hunt stallion at some point. The family has plenty of stamina and for a couple hundred Euro, some breeders might be interested.

Re: Siblings (and offspring) of well-known horses

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:10 am
by sweettalk
BaroqueAgain1 wrote:IIRC, De Coronado has done better on the track than either of Zen's boys. I'm kind of surprised that Coolmore has sold him, as that pedigree is sure to attract some breeders, even if he never gets a Group win. And he's a handsome horse.
I wonder if this move shows their opinion that Vertinineux's legacy as a broodmare is not panning out, and they didn't see any place for him at Ballydoyle as a stud. :?
sshhh, some of us are in trouble already for suggesting this.

Re: Siblings (and offspring) of well-known horses

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:21 pm
by BaroqueAgain1
If they don't want to keep a (second) son of Urban Sea, they probably didn't bat an eye selling a son of Vertigineux.

I know I should know this but :oops: ...who was the Urban Sea son they sold?

Re: Siblings (and offspring) of well-known horses

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:24 pm
by mariasmon
BaroqueAgain1 wrote:If they don't want to keep a (second) son of Urban Sea, they probably didn't bat an eye selling a son of Vertigineux.

I know I should know this but :oops: ...who was the Urban Sea son they sold?
Black Sam Bellamy

Re: Siblings (and offspring) of well-known horses

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:33 pm
by Starine
Son of Jersey Girl starts anew at Life Adventure Center
http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/inside-a ... enter.aspx

Re: Siblings (and offspring) of well-known horses

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:37 pm
by lurkey mclurker
G @LongBallToNoOne
3h 3 hours ago

¥253,800,000 Select sale 2016 yearling, now 3yo colt KAZAN (Deep Impact x Champagne d'Oro(USA) (Medaglia d'Oro)) debuts over 2000m on Turf at Kyoto Saturday, can't wait to see what's under that rug! #hyped

https://t.co/QDIz5ORUL7
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Re: Siblings (and offspring) of well-known horses

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:39 pm
by lurkey mclurker
Jess Samy @Frankel1313
17h 17 hours ago


Here's one of the Scat Daddys newcomer !

Called LA LA PAY FORWARD (Scat Daddy x Blushing Issue); He is a sibling to American Oaks & Del Mar Oaks winner LADY OF SHAMROCK.

He is stunning !
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Re: Siblings (and offspring) of well-known horses

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:57 pm
by Flanders
BaroqueAgain1 wrote:IIRC, De Coronado has done better on the track than either of Zen's boys. I'm kind of surprised that Coolmore has sold him, as that pedigree is sure to attract some breeders, even if he never gets a Group win. And he's a handsome horse.
I wonder if this move shows their opinion that Vertigineux's legacy as a broodmare is not panning out, and they didn't see any place for him at Ballydoyle as a stud. :?
I'm not surprised at all. Coolmore would never stand this quality of racehorse at their farm.

I am surprised that he wasn't sold to the US though.

Re: Siblings (and offspring) of well-known horses

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:17 am
by Miss Woodford
lurkey mclurker wrote:
Jess Samy @Frankel1313
17h 17 hours ago


Here's one of the Scat Daddys newcomer !

Called LA LA PAY FORWARD (Scat Daddy x Blushing Issue); He is a sibling to American Oaks & Del Mar Oaks winner LADY OF SHAMROCK.

He is stunning !
Image
He's so fuzzy! I'm surprised he hasn't been given a racing clip.