Siblings (and offspring) of well-known horses

Re: Siblings (and offspring) of well-known horses

Postby Sparrow Castle » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:00 pm

mariasmon wrote:
mariasmon wrote:R Sunday Surprise (full to California Chrome) runs Friday in Race 8 at Del Mar (vs. Cal-breds again).


She won.

She hardly got a call towards the end there coming through on the rail, lol. Good for her!


Now let's see if this girl can get a trophy in her stakes debut:

Mo'ne Davis is entered on August 12, 2017 at LAUREL PARK.
Your comments for this horse were: Bernardini - La Ville Rouge, by Carson City
Twixt S. at seven furlongs. Purse: $ 75,000.
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Re: Siblings (and offspring) of well-known horses

Postby Point Given » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:23 pm

Fawree (3-Year-Old Colt)
(Candy Ride (ARG) - Keeper Hill)
Date: August 10, 2017
Track: LOS ALAMITOS
Distance: Five Furlongs
Time: 1.01:00 Handily
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 6/10
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Re: Siblings (and offspring) of well-known horses

Postby BaroqueAgain1 » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:28 pm

The upcoming Race 3 at Geelong in Australia will feature the great Black Caviar's first foal, Oscietra, in her 2nd race. I think she's three, although keeping track of when the Southern Hemisphere horses change ages is...interesting? :oops: :P

She won. :D She may not look a lot like her mum (takes after her sire, maybe?), but runs a lot like her. Kicked in the stretch and just opened up on the field.
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Re: Siblings (and offspring) of well-known horses

Postby Sparrow Castle » Fri Aug 11, 2017 1:06 am

I think Oscietra looks like a very feminine version of Exceed and Excel, even when running she looks more like dad than mom and she has his "pretty" head. Glad to get this win out of the way!
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Re: Siblings (and offspring) of well-known horses

Postby Sparrow Castle » Fri Aug 11, 2017 1:24 am

Sparrow Castle wrote:I think Oscietra looks like a very feminine version of Exceed and Excel, even when running she looks more like dad than mom and she has his "pretty" head. Glad to get this win out of the way!

Oh and, yes, she turned 3 on Aug 1. Her actual 3 year old birthday will be September 12.

Here's a picture of her.
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Re: Siblings (and offspring) of well-known horses

Postby BaroqueAgain1 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 2:06 am

Thanks for the photo. I thought her build was much leaner than Nelly's, but that shot shows powerful hindquarters...and that part looks a LOT like Mum. :D
I'm confused...why do Aussie horses turn on Aug. 1? With the Northern and Southern Hemispheres having opposite seasons in a year, there should be six months difference between NH and SH TBs. Jan. 1 through June 30 is the first half of the year; July 1 through Dec. 31 is the second half.
:? Shouldn't their 'birthday' be on July 1?
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Re: Siblings (and offspring) of well-known horses

Postby Sparrow Castle » Fri Aug 11, 2017 2:41 am

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:Thanks for the photo. I thought her build was much leaner than Nelly's, but that shot shows powerful hindquarters...and that part looks a LOT like Mum. :D
I'm confused...why do Aussie horses turn on Aug. 1? With the Northern and Southern Hemispheres having opposite seasons in a year, there should be six months difference between NH and SH TBs. Jan. 1 through June 30 is the first half of the year; July 1 through Dec. 31 is the second half.
:? Shouldn't their 'birthday' be on July 1?

LOL, I could just say "since when do a lot of things about horse racing make sense," but I've wondered the same thing myself. I've been told various reasons from "it's based on the natural foaling seasons between the two hemispheres (and a lengthy lecture about earth's tilted axis...exposure to the sun)" to "breed registries made decrees independently of one another." Maybe others can pipe in on this.

Exceed and Excel has powerful hind quarters too, but I'm mostly referring to her general body style and head, especially those cute ears. But I've seen him in the flesh and haven't seen her.
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Re: Siblings (and offspring) of well-known horses

Postby Flanders » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:57 pm

Sparrow Castle wrote:
BaroqueAgain1 wrote:Thanks for the photo. I thought her build was much leaner than Nelly's, but that shot shows powerful hindquarters...and that part looks a LOT like Mum. :D
I'm confused...why do Aussie horses turn on Aug. 1? With the Northern and Southern Hemispheres having opposite seasons in a year, there should be six months difference between NH and SH TBs. Jan. 1 through June 30 is the first half of the year; July 1 through Dec. 31 is the second half.
:? Shouldn't their 'birthday' be on July 1?

LOL, I could just say "since when do a lot of things about horse racing make sense," but I've wondered the same thing myself. I've been told various reasons from "it's based on the natural foaling seasons between the two hemispheres (and a lengthy lecture about earth's tilted axis...exposure to the sun)" to "breed registries made decrees independently of one another." Maybe others can pipe in on this.

Exceed and Excel has powerful hind quarters too, but I'm mostly referring to her general body style and head, especially those cute ears. But I've seen him in the flesh and haven't seen her.

I'm fairly certain it has to do with their breeding season which starts in September. I like their breeding/foaling rules better than the US. As long as your mare is covered during the defined "Covering Season", you aren't penalized if she foals early. However if you breed outside the official covering season, you are penalized.

Here are Australia's rules:
Covering Season – a nine-month period extending from 1 September
until 31 May next. It commences one month after the start of the
racing season and ends two months before the end of the racing
season. All coverings of a Thoroughbred mare by a stallion must be
restricted to the official covering season if the owner wants the foal to
be officially one year old on the 1 August that follows one month after
the end of the foaling season

Foaling Season – the twelve-month period extending from 1 July until
30 June next. It commences one month before the start of the racing
season and ends one month before the end of the racing season
A foal born to a mare whose first covering by a stallion is restricted to
the official covering season, will be officially aged one year old (a
yearling) on the 1 August which follows one month after the end of
the foaling season in which it was born (i.e. it will commence its
second official year of life on that day)

A foal born to a mare which was first covered by a stallion, at any
time outside the official covering season, will be officially aged one
year old on the day it was born and will become a two year old on
the 1 August which follows one month after the end of the foaling
season in which it was (i.e. it will commence its third official year
of life on that day)
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Re: Siblings (and offspring) of well-known horses

Postby Starine » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:36 pm

California Chrome's full sister wins at Del Mar
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... at-del-mar

Also, Rachel Alexandra's little bro Fayeq fired a bullet this morning in preparation for the Travers:

By Malibu Moon, the 3-year-old half brother to Hall of Famer Rachel Alexandra worked in company with 3-year-old maiden Last Stage, easily putting away his workmate to complete the move in :47.36 under jockey Luis Saez. The work was the fastest of 53 at the distance. NYRA clockers caught him galloping out to five furlongs in 1:01 1/5.

"He worked fabulous and galloped out great," McLaughlin said. "We're pointing for the Travers."

The breeze was his first since beating a talented group of sophomores by 3 1/2 lengths in a 1 1/8-mile allowance July 26. That victory was the second straight for Fayeq, who broke his maiden by 2 3/4 lengths in his third try June 11 at Belmont Park.

"We have to take a chance because of his pedigree and because he's a really nice horse," McLaughlin said. "We want to give him a try. It's a big step up, but we feel like he deserves the chance. ... And if we can get him to switch leads, that would help us a lot."

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... ers-stakes
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Re: Siblings (and offspring) of well-known horses

Postby BaroqueAgain1 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:36 pm

Anonymity, the full sister to Hansen, just won the 6th at Del Mar, a 6 1/2-furlong MSW on the dirt, in impressive fashion. She may not look much like her brother (she's bright chestnut), but she can sure run.
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