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Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:47 pm

Retrospectiv wrote:
ElPrado2 wrote:Has she been bred to an actual speed type yet? I don't think she needs an actual stayer with how she ran herself.
Sometimes breeders get me totally confused. That's not something that happens often.
A miler with some early speed himself seems about right.

Remember she went to War Front twice. Tons of early speed and two year old (turf) runners there. Shame that didn't work put.
I hope they try War Front again. He'd bring plenty of speed.
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Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:50 pm

She must be close to foaling. She was bred to Medaglia d'Oro last year, right? Hope it's a filly.
A filly named Ruffian...

Eine Stute namens Danedream...

Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
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Tue Apr 18, 2017 12:36 pm

The thought of her going to Uncle Mo is just mouthwateringly good. I wonder if there are any physical characteristics that just don't match up? It is an A++ cross in TrueNicks.

I just have the Zoolander Mugatu quote in my head... "That Uncle Mo... so hot right now."
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Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:35 pm

bare it all wrote:The thought of her going to Uncle Mo is just mouthwateringly good. I wonder if there are any physical characteristics that just don't match up? It is an A++ cross in TrueNicks.

I just have the Zoolander Mugatu quote in my head... "That Uncle Mo... so hot right now."
They probably want to send her to established sires, and Mo wasn't before... he is now, though, so I wonder about this year...
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Tue Apr 18, 2017 2:34 pm

Life At Zen wrote:
bare it all wrote:The thought of her going to Uncle Mo is just mouthwateringly good. I wonder if there are any physical characteristics that just don't match up? It is an A++ cross in TrueNicks.

I just have the Zoolander Mugatu quote in my head... "That Uncle Mo... so hot right now."
They probably want to send her to established sires, and Mo wasn't before... he is now, though, so I wonder about this year...
Maybe they don't want the offspring to be the size of a Clydesdale.
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Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:58 pm

mariasmon wrote:
Life At Zen wrote:
bare it all wrote:The thought of her going to Uncle Mo is just mouthwateringly good. I wonder if there are any physical characteristics that just don't match up? It is an A++ cross in TrueNicks.

I just have the Zoolander Mugatu quote in my head... "That Uncle Mo... so hot right now."
They probably want to send her to established sires, and Mo wasn't before... he is now, though, so I wonder about this year...
Maybe they don't want the offspring to be the size of a Clydesdale.
I was a huge Mo fan when he was racing. He was a little guy back then. I always forget he's a 17 hand monster now.

Is Nyquist or any of his colts overly large?
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Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:53 pm

Nyquist is average-sized. Outwork is huge.
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Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:42 pm

Does Moss have a contractual obligation to give Z babies to Shirreffs? I understand the moral obligation and that some may think it's sacrilegious not to, but was just curious. I know they've used other trainers, Mandella and Sadler to name a few, the issue being has Shirreffs ever trained a horse to show speed? Might be a whole lot easier to find a different trainer than a different stud, no?
Anybody on this list of accomplished horses have the lead at the 1/2 mile pole or for the most part are they trained to be closers?

Zenyatta
Giacomo
Tiago
Life Is Sweet
Manistique
Hollywood Story
Mr. Commons
Gormley
After Market
Cliquot
Harmonious
Starrer
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Calkins Road
David Copperfield
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Radu Cool
Blingo
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I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:17 am

Who was the really fast horse who died--i don't think Shireffs trained him. Mentor Cane? I have to say, I'd like to see Ziconic get a new start in a barn committed to getting him out of the gate!
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Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:27 am

It was Mentor Cane, and he was trained by John. Tragic loss, as he was just blooming into a top-class sprinter. And he was a drop-dead gorgeous steel grey. :(
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Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:45 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:It was Mentor Cane, and he was trained by John. Tragic loss, as he was just blooming into a top-class sprinter. And he was a drop-dead gorgeous steel grey. :(
So he was. :cry:
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Sat May 27, 2017 12:04 pm

Look who's in the 9th race at Santa Anita today.
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Sat May 27, 2017 12:16 pm

I'm glad they're keeping him on the grass. Is this (1 1/8 mile) a longer distance than he's run before? Maybe he'll finally get up for a win this time. :oops:
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Sat May 27, 2017 1:17 pm

Oh dear, I was planning on going to SA today, now I'll be accused of just wanting to see Zen's baby boy. . .
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Sat May 27, 2017 4:37 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:I'm glad they're keeping him on the grass. Is this (1 1/8 mile) a longer distance than he's run before? Maybe he'll finally get up for a win this time. :oops:
His last race was 9f. His MO seems to be off slowly, loom up and then hang. I think I like him better at a mile where the pace is quicker and he, seemingly, gives the illusion of not hanging. I wonder what the odds are he breaks his maiden at Santa Rosa?
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Sat May 27, 2017 6:31 pm

Hope he can be a little closer today and finally get that elusive win. Any updated photos of the young princess Z?
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Sat May 27, 2017 7:59 pm

Squeaky wrote:Hope he can be a little closer today and finally get that elusive win. Any updated photos of the young princess Z?
in the Zenyatta thread in breeding/sales. she's a little darling <3
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Sat May 27, 2017 8:20 pm

Second last I think. Terrible break and never looked comfortable.
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Sat May 27, 2017 8:24 pm

I think both he and Coz need to be gelded and retrained for another career.
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Sat May 27, 2017 10:13 pm

At least he was in contact with the field early (maybe even third to last) but then dropped four or five lengths back. :( But he did finish strongly! Maybe 12 furlongs? One of those races in England for jumpers, only on the flat?
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