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Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:09 pm

Liking that they described him as a very "easy" horse. Here's hoping he inherited Zenyatta's mind.
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The old question...nature or nurture?
One sure item in the nurture column is that Zen would have imprinted on her colt her attitude around humans. Since she's calm and trusting, he would have grown up with that education from his mom. Has to help...just in case there's a bit of Pulpit/Tapit crazy in Ziconic's nature column. :lol: ;)
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BaroqueAgain1 wrote:The old question...nature or nurture?
One sure item in the nurture column is that Zen would have imprinted on her colt her attitude around humans. Since she's calm and trusting, he would have grown up with that education from his mom. Has to help...just in case there's a bit of Pulpit/Tapit crazy in Ziconic's nature column. :lol: ;)

Had almost the same discussion with a friend who owns hunter/jumpers. We agree that a little high strung attitude from the sire's side COMBINED with Zen's trusting nature is optimal. You have to have the common sense to balance out. He needs to be fiery enough to be competitive, but sensible enough to control. If he runs to his looks AND is sensible to boot, look out!
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Does he have a Bend Or spot on his butt? Looks like it. His head looks a bit like Tapit- just imagine grey.
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serenassong wrote:Does he have a Bend Or spot on his butt? Looks like it. His head looks a bit like Tapit- just imagine grey.

I think he does have a Bend Or spot. Also, I agree his head/neck area looks just like Tapit, he's got his mama's rear end though. He's a nice looking guy, I hope he runs as good as he looks.
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amfuller wrote:
serenassong wrote:Does he have a Bend Or spot on his butt? Looks like it. His head looks a bit like Tapit- just imagine grey.

I think he does have a Bend Or spot. Also, I agree his head/neck area looks just like Tapit, he's got his mama's rear end though. He's a nice looking guy, I hope he runs as good as he looks.
he actually looks like he's going through an awkward stage. just wait til he fills out!
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Ziconic, Morning Exercise
http://www.zenyatta.com/z_video/ziconic ... g-exercise

They have a lady handling Ziconic putting him in the walker, that tells me what a lot about his mentality. Thinking he's taking more on the Zenyatta mind than the sometimes high strung mind of Tapit foals. Things may change as he matures but we will see.
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amfuller wrote:Ziconic, Morning Exercise
http://www.zenyatta.com/z_video/ziconic ... g-exercise

They have a lady handling Ziconic putting him in the walker, that tells me what a lot about his mentality. Thinking he's taking more on the Zenyatta mind than the sometimes high strung mind of Tapit foals. Things may change as he matures but we will see.

Excuse me, what? Obviously the girl is competent: she wouldn't be there if she wasn't. At farms , especially for sales prep, you'd better be able to handle both sexes, or you're out of a job. High strung "Tapit foals" or not.

When I was sales prepping yearlings, one year we had 17 in our barn...and TWO employees, both of us women. We NEVER had any issues with the colts BECAUSE they were colts. And I've also handled racing age colts AND horses. It's called good horsemanship.

And yes, I KNOW he's not "in sales prep", but he's getting the same treatment.
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amfuller wrote:Ziconic, Morning Exercise
http://www.zenyatta.com/z_video/ziconic ... g-exercise

They have a lady handling Ziconic putting him in the walker, that tells me what a lot about his mentality. Thinking he's taking more on the Zenyatta mind than the sometimes high strung mind of Tapit foals. Things may change as he matures but we will see.
That tells you nothing about his mentality.
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More women than men in the horse world....
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amfuller wrote:Ziconic, Morning Exercise
http://www.zenyatta.com/z_video/ziconic ... g-exercise
As a Public Service Announcement, this is 80 seconds that God isn't going to give you back. You'd be better off watching the Uzbekistani Baccarat Championships on ESPN12.
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Good Lord, chill out. I was simply making a statement. No need to be rude. :roll: I was just saying that if he was a real hand full I doubt a girl would be handling him. Obviously, women are fully capable of handling horses. I'm a woman myself. I'm going by my experience that the unruly ones are "usually" handled by men. Instead of jumping all over someone maybe you should try and be helpful. Wow!
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Except that's pretty much untrue, which is why people are objecting to the comment.
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Lisa, who works the ring at Keeneland sales, can hold her own with any unruly horse just as well as any of the male handlers.
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amfuller wrote:Good Lord, chill out. I was simply making a statement. No need to be rude. :roll: I was just saying that if he was a real hand full I doubt a girl would be handling him. Obviously, women are fully capable of handling horses. I'm a woman myself. I'm going by my experience that the unruly ones are "usually" handled by men. Instead of jumping all over someone maybe you should try and be helpful. Wow!
:shock: My experience at the farms and sales must have been in a parallel universe. Nobody gave a damn who handled what unruly youngster as long as you had the skills. I got stuck with quite a few of them anyway despite usually being outnumbered by guys on the crew.
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amfuller wrote:Good Lord, chill out. I was simply making a statement. No need to be rude. :roll: I was just saying that if he was a real hand full I doubt a girl would be handling him. Obviously, women are fully capable of handling horses. I'm a woman myself. I'm going by my experience that the unruly ones are "usually" handled by men. Instead of jumping all over someone maybe you should try and be helpful. Wow!
Your experience doesn't reflect how things really are. Gender doesn't matter and strength doesn't matter. It's all about skill. A horse can run away with a male in tow the very same way it can with a woman. If anything I'd say it's more the other way around. Lots of really nasty (or highstrung) stallions seemed to be doing better with a female handler, especially if they had bad experiences with males in the past.
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Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:14 pm

Ziconic is a pretty horse but I don't he's all that special looking. I have a feeling if he was the colt of some unknown mare very few of you would have such a dazzling opinion of him.

Is he attractive? Yes, but he's by a very good sire out of a beautiful mare, he should be pretty.

I hope he has a wonderful racing career but I'm not holding my breath for it.
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mariasmon wrote:Lisa, who works the ring at Keeneland sales, can hold her own with any unruly horse just as well as any of the male handlers.
that woman is my hero. i've met her, i love her.
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sweettalk wrote:
mariasmon wrote:Lisa, who works the ring at Keeneland sales, can hold her own with any unruly horse just as well as any of the male handlers.
that woman is my hero. i've met her, i love her.
I don't know her personally, but I suspect she might bristle at the idea that a tough colt should have one of the male handlers and not her.
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