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Insane Crazy
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Mon May 29, 2017 8:49 am

Northport wrote:
Insane Crazy wrote:She nicks an A++ with Ghostzapper. Could he infuse some speed?

He had so much speed himself, but he has graded winners over longer distances (Moreno, Shaman Ghost) and sprinters (Starship Truffles, Paulassilverling, Judy the Beauty). IMHO he really can do it all - but I may be the most biased GZ fan ever. He's not getting any younger, I can't believe he is 17, so I would definitely love to see this match.
Holy CRAP, he's 17? Jesus. I swear I still think of him as a fresh young sire...oy. Oy. OY!
Not a wholesome trottin' race, no, but a race where they sit down right on the horse!
Like to see some stuck-up jockey boy sittin' on Dan Patch? Make your blood boil? Well, I should say!
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Mon May 29, 2017 12:06 pm

His big bro worked today... if you call it that

Cozmic One (5-Year-Old Horse)

Your comments for this horse were: 2012 Bernardini x Zenyatta Colt

Date: May 29, 2017
Track: SANTA ANITA PARK
Distance: Five Furlongs
Time: 1.04:80 Handily
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 25/25
Kelly Ann
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Mon May 29, 2017 4:47 pm

I'd love to see them send her new filly to a different trainer, wonder what the odds are on that ever happening
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Mon May 29, 2017 6:33 pm

CoronadosQuest wrote:His big bro worked today... if you call it that

Cozmic One (5-Year-Old Horse)

Your comments for this horse were: 2012 Bernardini x Zenyatta Colt

Date: May 29, 2017
Track: SANTA ANITA PARK
Distance: Five Furlongs
Time: 1.04:80 Handily
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 25/25


That's just painful. :oops:
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starrydreamer
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Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:04 pm

BigCountry wrote:
Miss Woodford wrote:Breed her to a sprinter or miler. Breeding her to classic horses is only producing plodders.
Distorted Humor. Speightstown.
I really really want them to try War Front again.
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Sparrow Castle
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Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:23 pm

Ziconic is entered to run on August 2, 2017, at DEL MAR.
Your comments for this horse were: Tapit - Zenyatta, by Street Cry (IRE)
$60,000 MSW one mile.
sweettalk
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Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:40 pm

they're putting him back on dirt? ok...
firehorse
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Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:17 pm

I think putting him back on dirt and a mile is good for him if they can get him out of the gate running, not sure he was as suited for grass as everyone thought just because competition may have looked easier(?). While neither of Z's sons proved to be the horse a fan of her may have dreamed of, I do think most of their lack of success is between their ears, he has always looked to me like a dirt horse, I've watched all his replays a couple of times and all I see is a slower Tapit, not a deep closer, grass horse, or Zenyatta.
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Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:59 pm

i recall speculation being tossed around that since she was so good on synth she may have been a good grass horse. several posters here wanted (or still want) to see her go to a grass stallion. Where's Bailey (1/2 to Zen) has two Street Cry offspring that have won on grass - one was a graded stakes winner. coz and ziconic both seemed to look better on it.

if he wins on the dirt this time out, or comes close, i'll happily say my uncertainty was misplaced. right this second, i think they should both stay on grass.
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It's not like him to bet the story, so @EJXD2 must *really* like Ziconic today!
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:39 pm

this little guy is killing me - so close today - really wanted to see him do it - but he was trying.
firehorse
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:39 pm

He almost got it damn it, I just wish one of her boys would just win one!
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:42 pm

luvsgeldings wrote:this little guy is killing me - so close today - really wanted to see him do it - but he was trying.
He was trying :( , just too far back and goes too wide for a horse his size I think, I do think he looks better on dirt if he gets another chance. How many times do they try before giving up? Have never heard why Cozmic One had so long off but he did make dramatic improvement and he's only had 3 starts, afraid the little one will always be a heartbreaker :cry:
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Delamont
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:49 pm

Ziconic was closing fast. Lost by only a head? He might have got up there if the race was a touch longer or he moved a touch sooner. He runs exactly like his dam but lacks her size and speed. I think he'll get there next time.
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:51 pm

he always seems to get off slowly - and yes, he is always running wide on the home turn - he is little, but he is trying. I thought they should have kept him on the turf - but he ran well on the dirt today - so maybe next time.
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:20 pm

Ziconic finished 2nd beaten by a neck, on August 2, 2017, at DEL MAR in Race 4.
Off odds: 6.80
http://www.equibase.com/static/chart/pd ... 17USA4.pdf

So close! Will get 'em next time, lol. A sampling of tweets:

derbydannyk‏ @derbydannyk
Ziconic won the gallop out.

Susie‏ @ponyace
Who had, "Cozmic One and Ziconic perform better this meet than Arrogate and Drefong," in their pool? #champions

Jeremy Balan@BH_JBalan
Now Ziconic knows how his mom felt against Blame.

Mark‏ @ShamIAmNot
Ziconic is a lot like his mom in that it will also take him until like his 20th start before he gets a different result

Jeremy Balan‏ @BH_JBalan
"Ziconic, Ziconic, Ziconic is flying! Deal With It Dude trying to hold on! Deal With It Dude and Zi-Con-Ic .... Deal With It Dude!"
BaroqueAgain1
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:22 pm

Maybe he should spend a semester with Wesley Ward, learning how to break like one of Ward's two-year-old rockets. ;) :mrgreen:
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Life At Zen
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:01 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:Maybe he should spend a semester with Wesley Ward, learning how to break like one of Ward's two-year-old rockets. ;) :mrgreen:
I think if he were to break much quicker and not drop back so far, he'd have no problem breaking his maiden. But he's too much of a slug out of the gate and doesn't have his mom's turn of foot.
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BaroqueAgain1
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:23 pm

IMO, his problem is that he doesn't have his dam's stride length. Comes with being about two hands shorter than his Amazonian mom. :P
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:41 pm

I think his problem is that he's slow.
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