Are Fast Juveniles Good?

by Jared Kennedy
January 30, 2008

Virtually every year we see precocious 2yo’s who step up and run massive figures and two camps automatically form. The one camp assumes they’ve seen the second coming while the other takes a contrary position and starts predicting the date of their regression.

It may be useful to take a peek at how these big figure juveniles fare in the Derby. It has to be noted that generally a small number of those big figure juveniles actually make it to the Derby but for the ones that do the results may be interesting. One may assume that horse with such figures would automatically be well regarded but that is not always the case. There are occasionally prices to be had.

The cumulative record of Derby starters who recorded a 100+ Beyer Speed Figure as a juvenile is 27-5-2-2 with a further 6 qualifiers finishing in the top 5. A flat $2 win bet on all of them you have yielded a gross return of $82.60 so you’d have made $28.60 profit (52.96% ROI)

It certainly looks like a useful stat on the face of it. The numbers actually get stronger if you just look at the last 5 years. During that time Derby starters who achieved the 100+ BSF have gone 13-4-1-2. There is a consensus that 2yo’s are being brought along slower than they once were. In terms of the number starts that would certainly be true but it would seem as though 2yo’s are still very much being asked for speed early on. More speed with less races may not actually be as easy physically on the 2yo’s as we think the trainers are being.

The numbers seem to suggest that many horses who are fast early on are still fast in may. Assuming of course they last long enough to make it into the Derby starting gate. I think there is little credence to the notion that juveniles who run big early on cannot continue to improve.

This statistic, and especially it’s recent success, certainly says good things about the chances of War Pass and Pyro. I’m not aware of too many other Derby contenders this year who achieved a 100+ BSF as a 2yo. At this stage it may be pointing out the obvious but on the Derby Trail things change so quickly that if a horse even has one sub par performance they drop down the pecking order considerably. It is possible that War Pass or Pyro could become forgotten horses, this little stat may help to keep them fresh in your mind.

4 Responses to “Are Fast Juveniles Good?”

  1. Matt Converse Says:

    I followed 2-year-olds who got a 90+ Beyers very early in their career, in the summer of the 2-year-old careers. The only one that made it to the Derby was Scat Daddy. I’d say, looking at him, and others like Favorite Trick, the key is did they improve off those early numbers? Of course, a horse like Street Sense (and now War Pass) could be exceptions because they got numbers so big they really didn’t even need to improve to win the Derby. But it only makes sense that most fast three-year-olds were fast at two. An easy reference is looking at the last three Triple Crown winners, Secretariat, Seattle Slew, and Affirmed, they were all pretty fast at two.

  2. Jared Kennedy Says:

    Even low profile 2yo’s who got big numbers like Funny Cide and Smarty Jones went on to do well.

    I found it most fascinating that you could have made a profit by simply focusing on the entrants with fast juvenile races.

  3. Matt Converse Says:

    That’s why I liked Funny Cide all along. I don’t know how I missed Smarty Jones at two, but I did catch on by the Arkansas Derby!

  4. SV Hill Says:

    Wise Answer, the Caldor 2 year old who won 2 of 3 of the FL Stallion Series, received a 100 BSF for his win in the In Reality, and a 102 a couple of races earlier…
    compare to a 101 for his In Reality stakes win and 106 for his win at 7 panels (for Brisnet Speed numbers).

    The 100 BSF In Reality was for 8.5 furlongs.

    They screwed around with this one, cutting him back to 7 panels, and then they threw him on turf at 9 furlongs…Still may get on right track if the connections figure out this is not good for a young colt that is stretching out on dirt. Recently worked two bullets at 5 and 6 furlongs.

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